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>
>ridecamp-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 61
>
>Today's Topics:
> Re[2]: Ads On Lline -EXPT
> Re: HRM and english saddles
> Multi-day rides
> Biothane Harness Wanted
> Re: battery heater
> Re: EZ boots
> Re: EZ boots
> More easy-boot stuff
> DMG response
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:17:54 +0100
>From: JEvans@linotype.co.uk (Janet Evans)
>To: "INTERNET:ridecamp@endurance.net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>,
> "Susan E. Swope" <102376.30@CompuServe.COM>
>Subject: Re[2]: Ads On Lline -EXPT
>Message-ID: <00000126.3097@linotype.co.uk>
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> As an endurance rider in the UK, it's great to hear what you guys over
> in the USA are using, whether it be supplements/tack etc. Most of the
> post seems to be from the states, but it's great to keep informed and
> if I think an item might be useful in the future, I archive the
> details for later reference. One thought though with the
> supplements/medicine, are there any problems getting hold of products
> from the USA which perhaps haven't been licensed in the UK, ie the
> mail about Flexxion from Jeffers
> Regards
> Jan
>
>
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>Subject: Re: Ads On Lline -EXPT
>Author: "Susan E. Swope" <102376.30@CompuServe.COM> at email
>Date: 23/10/96 14:23
>
>
>I have been reading ride camp for half of this year. I always thought that
the
>product suggestions made by the on-line vendors have been made in good
taste and
>directed towards a specific hardware/nutrition problem or request for
>information.
>
>I applaud all the vendors for thier appropriate and helpful suggestions
>
>Vincent J. Attardi
>Nagzrus Farm - Kentucky
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:13:59 -0700
>From: Nick <nwarhol@ix.netcom.com>
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: HRM and english saddles
>Message-Id: <199610261713.KAA27326@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Tina-
>
>We have put the HRM in a small bag (from Griffins) that clips to the ring on
>the front and ties to the billets. You could use a breast collar and attach
>it loosely. I usually have my HRM on the breast collar in a small holder
>(another Griffins item) that velcros on.
>
>
>Judy Long and Nachi Sunshine (Warpaint)
>Hayward, Ca.
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:31:01 -0400
>From: BGray96@aol.com
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>cc: Karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us
>Subject: Multi-day rides
>Message-ID: <961026153100_1946743099@emout16.mail.aol.com>
>
>Hi Karen;
>I hope I can answer some of your multi-day ride questions. I love multi-day
>rides...my favorites are Outlaw Trail and Pony Express. I've ridden Outlaw
>Trail 6 times on Omner and won 1st overall 5 times. I think that rugged
>mountain course is Omners forte. And you can't go too, too fast on the 1st
>three days or you will blow up your horse before the 5th day or you will get
>lost!
>I've never ridden Death Valley Encounter, but its a great ride!
>One exciting feature of multi-day rides...the horses seem stronger by the
>last day than the first!
>1. On a 5 day ride, the horses seem to eat constantly..so I pack enough hay
>to last my trip to the ride and throughout the ride. Of course, don't change
>the diet by thinking you can buy hay at the ride. I've seen problems. Lots of
>Hay.
>2. Water. I only bring one horse(I just plan to ride the whole race on
>Omner). I know I can obtain water at various points of the event about every
>other day. So I pack 40 gallons. I guess the weather can be cool at DV so
>you might not need as much to cool your horse. Check with the manager about
>water availabilty.
>3. No, I don't plan any early arrival unless I want to "ride around" or
>sightseeing.
>B. I have a 9 to 5 so I always need to rush home the day after the ride.
>4. It's great to have a crew..but sometimes I need to go solo. I've found
>lots of help and support from the other crews. (and thanks again for all you
>guys that have helped me :))
>5. My fanny pack is full with Cliff bars, Power Bars, raisins etc. whatever
>works for you,
> and lots of water for you.
>7. It's actually what do you expect the 3rd day of the ride. I think thats
>when you recover from the paralysis :) (not really) and really get into the
>pacing, your incredible horse and your friends.
>8. I do ice after each day.
>9. I usually give Omner 3 weeks off after a multi./before 3 weeks.
>10. Yes, expect some weight loss throughout the ride. Since I am a Dynamite
>Distributor (no commercial intended) I use the High Energy Supplement HES.
> It is a high energy, high fat (extruded soybeans), lots of calories in a
>pelleted form. I can pack it in baggies and feed handfuls right from the
>saddle. Outlaw and Pony XP only have one vet check each day so I need to
>pack food and electrolytes and feed along the way before and after the vet
>checks. I like the Equi-Marine electrolytes since Omner will just open his
>mouth for his dose..he loves it and will eat and drink after his
>electrolytes.I also carry some carrots and an apple to feed along the trail.
> Also I carry a flashlight, solar blanket, easy boots, vet wrap, compact
>rainjacket, hoof pick all that emergency stuff, extra 800mg motrin (which I
>hardly ever use, but I seem to need it for everyone else). Wow am I ever
>weighted down!!
>11. Pacing..just really take your time if you plan to ride all 5 days. Its a
>great thrill to finish all 5 and you will be so proud of your horse and
>yourself. Crocket and Sharon Dumas have a nice Outlaw Trail video that also
>might be helpful. It just gets me anxious for next years OT.
>12. Have a Great time..I wish I was going!!!
>I'm happy to answer any questions, I hope there are a few tips for you.
>Beverly Gray
>BGray96@aol.com
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:13:29 -0400
>From: "rginia@dune.globe-net.net" <Gini@dune.globe-net.net>
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Biothane Harness Wanted
>Message-Id: <199610262013.QAA07322@dune.globe-net.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>I'm looking for a Biothane/leather combo harness, Horse size for
trail/pleasure...up to $300.. no more!
>
>Anyone have one?
>
>Gini Wilson
>(407) 267-1336
>(407) 867-7128 - Work (6:30 am - 3:00 pm est)
>rginia@dune.globe-net.net
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:46:16 -0700
>From: "Duncan Fletcher" <dfletche@sm1.gte.net>
>To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>,
> "Allen Xrealname Linda Eisele" <linda@ghostridr.reno.nv.us>
>Subject: Re: battery heater
>Message-Id: <199610262321.SAA11632@mail.gte.net>
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>If you see one advertised, hide your wallet and don't buy the bridge
>advertised along with it. The car battery I bought yesterday has a reserve
>capacity of 120 minutes (as in 2 hours) at 10 amps. At 12 volts this
>translates to 120 watts (as in two 60 watt light bulbs). That is less than
>1/10 of your standard dinky 1500 watt free standing electric plug in
>heater.
>
>Duncan Fletcher
>dfletche@gte.net
>
>----------
>> From: Allen Xrealname Linda Eisele <linda@ghostridr.reno.nv.us>
>> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> Subject: battery heater
>> Date: Wednesday, October 23, 1996 9:27 AM
>>
>> >At 10:02 AM 10/23/96 -0400, Judith Hall wrote:
>> >>Last week or so, someone wrote about having a
>> >>heater in their camper that ran on batteries and
>> >>just lasted 1-1/2 nights. I accidently deleted
>> >>the message, but am interested in knowing where
>> >>one finds a heater that runs on batteries? I
>> >>would be happy with *one* night's heat ;^). Woke
>> >>up with frost on the inside of the roof last
>> >>ride...
>> >>
>> Yes, please post it to the list as I would like to know too!!!!>
>> Here's lookin back atya.......()()
>> Linda Eisele & Sareei and ('')\
>> hubby, Allen and the General (* *)\\_______~~~~~~
>> linda@ghostridr.reno.nv.us ( )
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ // \\
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ // \\
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:44:54 -0800
>From: SusanW@ns1.exactimaging.com (SusanGallagher_Wry)
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: EZ boots
>Message-Id: <v02110103ae986e4f6a94@[198.36.169.114]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Karen could you give me more info on how you put on your boots, like what
>kind of foam..etc. Since I'm new e-mail me if everyones hearn this a
>million times.TIA.
>
>Susan & the oh-so round Coco Puff
>Red Horse Farm
>Oregon, U.S.A.
>
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>
>Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 19:52:23 -0700
>From: "Duncan Fletcher" <dfletche@sm1.gte.net>
>To: <Easycare@primenet.com>, "Karen Chaton" <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
>Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>Subject: Re: EZ boots
>Message-Id: <199610262321.SAA11683@mail.gte.net>
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>
>Please explain the foam to me.
>
>Duncan Fletcher
>dfletche@gte.net
>
>----------
>> From: Karen Chaton <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
>> To: Easycare@primenet.com
>> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> Subject: Re: EZ boots
>> Date: Thursday, October 24, 1996 10:12 PM
>>
>> >I thought that Karen Chaton's, "Imagine a Ride Where," really was a
>> >fantasy until I realized that her horse had Easyboots on; no wonder
>> >everything went so well.
>>
>> I LOVE using my EZ boots .[snip]. I have learned a few tricks: DO NOT
>use pam or
>> any type of other stuff on the hoof to make the foam not stick. It
>doesn't
>> work!! It seems to stop the chemical reaction from occuring. I used up
>an
>> entire set of two bottles of foam learning this lesson the hard way. :(.
>> Also, if I wrap the heels three or four times around with vetwrap before
>> putting the boots and foam on it keeps the heels from getting soft or
>tender
>> when I remove them. Once the boots are on I take scissors and trim the
>> vetwrap close to the boot all the way around. It looks like he has on
>> little socks. I wonder if I were to use a real sock and pull it up over
>his
>> entire hoof if that would work?
>>
>> I've got removal time down to under a half an hour for two boots too :).
>
>>
>> The only thing I haven't figured out is an easy way to get the dried foam
>> out of the EZ boot afterwards.
>>
>> Happy Trails!
>>
>> Karen
>> in Gardnerville
>> & Dream Weaver (who wears a size 2!)
>>
>>
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 19:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
>From: karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us (Karen Chaton)
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: More easy-boot stuff
>Message-Id: <199610270254.TAA24495@heather.greatbasin.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I've had a few people write and ask about how the easy boots are applied and
>how the foam works, so thought I would send one reply to the list. There is
>more information in the archives and on the endurance page if anybody is
>wishing further information on easy boots. (by the way, this is not meant
>to be a product advertisement and I am in no way affiliated with Easy Care!)
>
>First, make sure the entire heel is cut out of the back of the boot, all the
>way down to the line that is there. I have found that a good pair of
>scissors will cut right thru it, or else use a paring knife and saw all the
>way around. One other thing I do before I apply the boot is clamp down the
>metal teeth on the plate that is in the boot. This won't make any
>difference, even when I have used the boots without the foam the boots seem
>to stay on just fine if they are fitted properly. (I think the vetwrap
>helps keep them on too)
>
>Pre-fit the boot to the horse, making sure it fits properly and the heel
>strap and wires are adjusted properly. Use a shoe-lace or other strong
>string and loop it thru the center of the heel strap. When you put the boot
>on the horse, have them step down and pull the both ends of the string until
>the heel strap comes up over the heel, then let go of one end of the string
>and pull it out. Then you can adjust the buckle. I strongly recommend if
>you are going to leave the boots on for any length of time that you wrap the
>heel with vetwrap or some other similar product. Three or four times around
>works really well.
>
>Okay, so you know the boot fits your horse, it has been cut down, and you
>are ready to apply the boot with the easy foam. Get together everything you
>will need and have it in one spot. (Warning: DO NOT even think about
>applying the easy foam and boots to a horse that will not stand still for
>more than five minutes or you will be in for a rude awakening when it comes
>time to remove them!!). You will need these items: Rubber/latex gloves, a
>plastic cup for mixing, tongue depressors or mixing spoon/stick (make sure
>it's something disposable), a string for the heel strap, vetwrap, scissors
>and the easy foam. Follow the mixing directions on the bottles of foam.
>You will have two bottles - by mixing the two compounds together it creates
>a chemical reaction that makes the foam expand. Be extra careful not to get
>the mixture on yourself, as it will have to wear off :). Once you pour it
>into the boot, be ready to apply the boot to the horse immediately. Have
>the horse step down, pull the heel strap up over the heel (remember, the
>heel will have already been wrapped with vetwrap), and clip down the buckle.
>Within a few minutes the foam will start to expand and come out the sides
>and top of the boot. (you can feel the heat from the reaction on the bottom
>of the boot - wonder what the horse thinks of this). After it has set up
>take the scissors and trim the globs of foam and vetwrap down to the edge of
>the boot all the way around, so there is nothing there to cause any rubbing
>or collect debris.
>
>Removal time: Plan on doing it in stages the first time, as it is difficult
>the first time, and frustrating, and really really irritating! (speaking
>from experience)... Again, be prepared with all the items you will need.
>This is what I use: A hoofpick, a chisel, and a flathead screwdriver. I
>also get a nice soft seatcushion, since I will be spending a great deal of
>time on the ground. Undo the buckle on the boot, then start by inserting
>the flat edge of the hoofpick all the way around the edge of the boot along
>the coronet band and loosen the boot as far as the hoofpick will reach.
>Then start with the scredriver and chisel. Begin working on one side of the
>boot, starting with the screwdriver and following with the chisel, or
>whatever combination works for you. Slowly work the tools until they are
>going all the way down the front and sides of the hoof to the bottom of the
>boot - and separating the foam and boot from the hoof. Once you have done
>that, you can start with prying from the bottom. Same basic concept, start
>with one tool followed by the other, prying from one side around the entire
>hoof to the other side. This is a slow process and you have to be careful
>not to get any of the tools to where they will do any damage to the hoof,
>and be ready to pull them out immediately if your horse decides he has had
>enough. I usually work for a few minutes on one foot, then the other, and
>so forth so the horse is more comfortable. Once you work your way around
>with both tools, the boot should pop right off. It should, but most likely
>it won't, so at this stage I usually start over from the beginning <g>.
>There is a definite technique to this, and once you do it a couple of times
>you'll get the finesse required for it and it gets MUCH easier!
>
>I hope this helps to explain things to those who are interested. Please
>feel free to e-mail me if you have any further questions.
>
>Happy Trails,
>
>Karen
>in Gardnerville
>karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:51:16 -0800 (PST)
>From: kclanin@fix.net (karen clanin)
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: DMG response
>Message-Id: <199610271551.HAA27758@fletch.fix.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Anyone wanting to read Susan Evan's reply to Lynn Taylor's questions about
>the research project can contact me direct and I'll forward it to you. It's
>long (10 - 12 pages) so don't want to overload the list for those of you who
>are not interested.
>
>Karen
>kclanin@fix.net
>
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>End of ridecamp-d Digest V96 Issue #61
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