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From: helgeson@lansford.ndak.net
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 16:01:19 PDT
Subject: [endurance] Arab's have brains and heart!
Hi everyone,
Been busy with a temporary job, so just getting to my email and run across
three
letter so far of riders having problems with getting their horses to walk
during the ride.
All three riders got tired of "fighting" with their horse and would either give
up or try
and walk the horse. Two riders blamed their horse and said the horses had all
heart
and no brains, (or was that the riders with all heart and no brains). And the
third rider,
who was on the right path, had the attitude that it was somthing that she had
to learn
and work with.
Like Mary Twelveponies always says, "there are NO problem horses, only problem
riders." These horses need to be taught to stay in the gait they are in not
matter what
is going on around them. This all starts with when they are broke to ride. Most
people
are in a hurry to break their horses to ride (30 days or less) and do not teach
them
disipline on the gaits. I am not going to go into who to do that over the
Internet because
of lack of time and space, but if anyone wants to know they can email me.
I did learn a good way to teach a horse to walk that refuses to. I had an
Arabian mare
that did fine when I was riding her at home but would prance and jog me around
on the trail. When she was walking and would try and go into a faster pace I
would pull on the
reins to hold her back and she would fight me. One time she fought me for 30
miles!
Was I tried! Then a trainer told me that when she started to go faster instead
of pulling back on the reins to hold her just pull her around in circles and
keep her in the circle
untill she will walk then let her walk out again. The circle needs to big
enough so that she
can comfortably trot around it but she is not getting any where. The horse will
get tired
of going around in circles, especially if it is not getting any closer to the
other horses and
will slow down to a walk. Just keep doing this and pretty soon the second you
start to
signal the horse to go into the circle she will start to walk. Just don't ever
pull back.
Nancy has the right idea with trying to train the horse before trying to win. I
would suggest
to her that she does not get off the horse and walk him. This just rewards him.
Not only
did she get off his mouth but she got off his back as well! Also I would start
his lessons
at home. Ride with some friends and have them ride by you. When your horse
starts to
take off just calmly put him into circles. Some horses, who have gotten away
with it for alot of years, might take a while to retrain, but the results are
worth it. Just don't ever
let the horse break the gait he is in no matter what the circumstances.
I have trained Arabians for years and have purebred Arabians that will stay in
the gait
I have them in even if someone comes by them at a full gallop! They never fight
me.
Like I said it is all in the training of the horse, not the intelligence of the
horse.
Lynette Helgeson
Diamond-H Ranch
North Dakota
I had to stop and reply to these people and
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From: Heather_Decker@students.albany.k12.or.us (Heather Decker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:33:47 -0700
Subject: [none]
TO WHO IT MAY CONCERN,
I AM JUST STARTING GOING INTO ENDURANCE RIDING. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU
HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT I COULD POSSIBLY USE, IT WOULD BE GREATLY
APPRECIATED BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO OF MY FRIENDS INTERESTED IN IT TOO.
PLEASE, IF YOU COULD WRITE ME BACK AND TELL ME HOW TO FIND OR GET THIS
INFORMATION. THANK YOU.
SINCERELY,
HEATHER DECKER
HEATHER_DECKER@STUDENTS.ALBANY,K12,OR.US
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From: hickst@puzzler.nichols.com (Tina Hicks)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:51:51 -0500
Subject: [endurance] tights/horse size
about the Carousel tights...I love mine - here are a few thoughts tho....
the nylon IS slick I have to admit but I'm getting used to it - fortunately
Embers doesn't spook/bolt/spin like Tony so I haven't noticed it as much.
Not sure if I'd wear these on Tony without at least a seatsaver (or maybe
some Elmers <g>)
they fit great, are long enough since I special ordered them (normal tall
would have never cut it), but the waist is still too big- wish I had
ordered them with a smaller waist or a drawstring - next pair...
can be ordered through SportTack (listed on End. home page) - they are
higher from Carousel as they, for obvious reasons, protect their
distributors
they are no match for briars - already put one small hole in the left leg
:-< and several snags.
they don't ever ride up
the padding helps and is in just the right places
==============
about rider/horse size - both Tony and Embers (Arabs) are too small for me
aesthetically - Tony is 15H and solid built and Embers is, well, either 15H
or 14.2 or somewhere in between :-> and lightly built - I joke about having
to put some padding around Embers' knees so my feet won't make any marks
<g>. See, I am almost 6', 130lbs, and about 5' of that is legs - or so it
seems. However, both are very comfortable to ride down the trail - that's
what really matters for this sport. Smaller horses are very handy on the
trail, make it easier to miss those limbs, mount, fit in a trailer, and you
don't have to pay extra for oversized anything :->
Comfort, more than looks, is the name of the game here. If I can ride 50
(or 100 miles) on a horse at one time, then that's a good fit no matter
what the stick says or the going fashion fad is (and this is from a former
show person who always rode big horses and wanted *bigger, bigger, bigger*
horses).
Tina, Tony (who is now walking sound in the pasture from his suspensory
pull - YEAH!!!), and Embers
AL
hickst@nichols.com
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From: step@bluefish.fsr.com (Stephanie Teeter)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:57:50 -0700
Subject: [endurance] [RiverRover@aol.com: 2 saddles for sale]
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Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:25:44 -0400
From: RiverRover@aol.com
To: step@fsr.com
Subject: 2 saddles for sale
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Stonewall #501 saddle for sale. Won't fit my new horse.Used but in good
shape.
Has pommel with no horn, full skirts, adjustable rigging and breast collar
color black.
350.00 firm
Also less than 6month old big horn cordura nylon and suede western saddle.
Brown color, rode less than a dozen times..Need to sell to buy new endurance
saddle.
15 1/2 seat. light weight can be ridden in endurance but I want a new
stonewall.
325.00 firm
Please leave me email at riverrover@aol.com or call(713)471-2705 after 6pm
central time, I am in Texas. Mary Watkins
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From: Ellen <vincian@cdmnet.com>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:48:11 -0500
Subject: [endurance] Horse size
Just thought I'd add my $.02 in about rider/horse size! I'm 5'6" and weigh
135-140llbs. My horse is 14.3 or a small 15.0 hh and he suits me just fine!
Although I admit that I am not tall, I am tall enough to be considered the
correct size for a 16.0 hand horse in Dressage! My instructor would *love*
to see me on a 16hh horse, but I love my horse and, on top of that (somebody
slap me now for what I am about to say) I am going to be purchasing a
Norwegian Fjord Pony (14-14.2hh) for Dressage and Eventing!;D I don't think
that I will look ridiculas at all!;D Besides, is there anyone in this world
who really *Needs* a HUGE horse?;D JMHO
Solange Deschatres vincian@cdmnet.com
and 12-Bar Origional(Ahab the A-rab to you!;D)
"De price of your hat ain't de measure of your brain."
"And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make."-The Beatles
Hey, I get enough exercise just pushing my luck!:) ;D
^^o00o
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From: "Kathy Myers" <kmyers@collagen.com>
Date: 1 May 1996 13:56:20 U
Subject: [endurance] MSM, Chondroitin sulfate dilema
Kat brings up an interesting topic. Where do these things fit in
the AERC drug policy? I think there are two ways to look at it.
1) Drug... An arthritic horse goes sound. Is it right to
use them and ride, or retire the horse, or stick to pleasure
trail? [Mostly, activity is good for arthritic horses]
2) Supplement... Just like balancing Selenium, Calcium,
phospherous, magnesium, potasium, Vit A, Vit D, Vit E, etc..
both Chondroitin sulfates and glucosamines occur naturally in
the body.
I can ride Magnum horse without these. He was sound. The reason
he is on them is to give him the best possible shot at preventing
injury and degeneration... or at least slowing it down... given
what we know about him. Would it be right for me to ride him and
not provide for him? I sure would feel awful if I rode him hard
and didn't provide the calories necessary to keep him from becoming
bone thin. His diet is different given his job than it would be
if he were a pasture ornament (what a waste *That* would be).
And then we can get into Dynamite. OK out there, raise your mice.
How many people use Dynamite? Have you looked at the amount of
Beta Carotine that's in it? Beta Carotine is found naturally in
horse feeds anyways, but not in nearly the quantities that it's
found in Dynamite. I could care less if you feed it. It think
it's a great way of keeping horses who need it healthy.
What about biotin? Should we ban horses with weak hooves? I know
that TB's are affected (But I have found out that SOME are racing
barefoot. I'd like one of those next time!) and now I know that
some arabs have the same hoof troubles too. Being an Arab does
not mean great feet. If we get into the no biotin, then we have
only horses with naturally good feet and we are getting into the
NATRC relm of no boots, etc.
You wouldn't compete knowing you had an imbalanced diet for your
horse. One of the most said things about tying up is that you
should test your horses blood to see what the levels are and feed
*for your horse*. That's what I figure I do with these supplements.
Feed the best I can for my horse. I see it as a tool.
:) - kat
... in No. Cal with Magnum the TB
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From: hotspots@fast.net (Sandy.Terp)
Date: Wed, 1 May 96 20:43 EDT
Subject: [endurance] Germany anyone?
Many of you east coaster's know Iris Fitzpatrick as a long time competitor
in endurance and competitive trail riding. She has made the decision to move
back to Germany
to be closer tofamily. She hopes to have everything in order to make the move
mid-June. I
will have a complete list of things "for sale" soon. Horses, trailers, cart and
harness, etc. What I would like to find out is if we have anyone on the list
in Germany
specifically in the Frankfurt area. She hopes to be back at it within a year.
Anyone familar
with her "stuff"that wants to give her a call prior to my posting the list, her
number is
201-729-6564. Sandy, and the crew. Impy, Tink, Taz, and Mage.
From: Teachm4u@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 20:45:53 -0400
Subject: [endurance] Saddles
Anyone out there have a new ZES saddle? just want to know how you like it.
How about Orthflexes?TM
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From: Shareeka@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:46:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [endurance] HRM usage
Hey Alexandra & Mirage, How is the humidity at 106 degrees? It is really
tough here in FLA to train during the summer when the humidity is realy high.
It feels horribly hot during July, August and September but it rarely gets
hotter than the low to mid 90's. BUT the humidity is horrible. I was
wondering how your training in CAL goes with those high temps and if the
humidity is bad too?
Shareeka & Moniets Munshaado, Big Pine Key, FLA
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From: Shareeka@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:15:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [endurance] first ride & ...
The last two rides I went on, the Far Out Forrest Ride in the Ocala National
Forrest and, the Florida Endurance Classic V, in Withlacoochee I met some
people from Georgia who have a small arab with stringhalt named WISH GRANTED.
He starts out after everyone else leaves. He does 50's (I know for sure)
and I think 100's. The vets always look at him and discuss his gait
"abberation". He always comes in top 10 and comes on strong during the
last part of the race and passes up most everyone that took off during the
beginning. Don't let some conformational things get in the way of the
horse's heart and ability. Don't sell him short if he has something to
give. Give him a chance, if you be careful that you are not letting him
give you more than he can
(which arabs will sometimes do) you might find that he has the capabitly and
heart of overcoming some physical obstacles if you keep your eye on his
conditioning and his performance.
Shareeka & Moniets Munshaado, Big Pine Key, FL
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From: Shareeka@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:48:37 -0400
Subject: Re: [endurance] HRM!!!!
Dorothy & Ellie: it is a bi-monthly publication, that you will love. A
friend that got me into ctr's and endurance (Laurie Causie, if you see this
Laurie, thank you) got me my subscription. it is:
Trail Blazer Publications
18243 Rock Springs CT,
Bend, OR 97701
Subscribe, you won't be sorry
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From: "Lucie A. Hess" <lhess01@mail.coin.missouri.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:20:55 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [endurance] new horse
If I was you , I'd call the people I bought the horse from and tell them
the horse is coming back to live with them; since it sounds like the horse
was misrepresented. There is no sense in you or your family members being
injured by this horse. I'd try to find another horse from someone in
your area that deals in horses for families, or a training barn that has
an older horse that just needs a good home and some one to take care of him..
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From: Natalie Arnold & Richard Goodwin <trailride@foothill.net>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:41:02 -0700
Subject: [endurance] Re: Pat Parelli
>Can you Give more information about Pat Parelli and his mail ?
Vitor, I do not have an EMail address for Pat Parelli, but if you have
Internet access,try these pages:
www.horsesetc.com/western-horseman/nhorse.htm <-- info by Western
Horseman Magazine
www.txranger.com/ccranch/nhfaq.html <-- a page of frequently asked
questions (FAQ)
Also, you can run a query on one of the web search services, such as
AltaVista, for"pat parelli" and you will get many more places to try. You may
be
able to find anaddress that way. Happy hunting. Send another note if you
cannot find
what you need.I will be happy to search further and EMail the results. regards
/nat
_ ,--/ trailride@foothill.net is the address of
<_ __/ /\| Natalie's "Barn & Breakfast" in Weimar, CA.
( )__, ) ~ A B&B for horses (and their riders)
// '--; in the heart of Tevis Country. (916) 637-4644
From: Gardner Family <slsf@foothill.net>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:47:25 -0700
Subject: [endurance] Endurance RE: Anyone from Freemont, CA?
My husband is looking for someone who might have a place for a horse for 3
or 4 weeks near Freemont, CA. He is working down there (we're from Auburn)
and misses his horse a lot. A trade might be possible for someone who wants
to have their horse closer to Tevis trail later in the summer. Can anyone
help ?? We'd sure appreciate it !!Thanks. Sue and Phil Gardner Auburn, CA
From: MThomp7389@aol.com
Subject: Re: [endurance] Delivery Fail...
Hi Diane,Yes! I've been getting quite a number of deliver failures also. The
report
says "mailbox full, unable to deliver". Of course, by the time I get it back
I've forgotten what it was that I sent??!? So, what to do except delete or
try and figure out was those 100 lines of internet code means. Also, most of
them seem to be for compuserve addresses. I don't know, but I know I'm
definitely one of those who doesn't check my mailbox everyday, but it doesn't
seem that I have a limit, or it's a very high limit. I've been trying to
(ahem) check my mail more frequentlyAnyone else?
Mary Thompson-Moore and Monte
From: Satori3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [endurance] vosal rubs
I have put a woolskin (not the imitation stuff) noseband cover on my vosal.
I was looking for a black one and found what I needed in the State Line Tack
catalogue (but had to purchase the full halter set--and had to use one of the
side bands because the vosal is smaller than a regular noseband, though I
suppose you could cut the noseband cover to fit--hated to do this, though,
might want to use it on my regular headstall). I also found that EnduroTrail
has just the noseband cover (natural color) for $7.95. (1-800-829-9564) The
noseband worked for Chance.
Cynthia and Chance.
From: dluehosh@vt.edu (Gwen Dluehosh)
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 10:12:48 -0400
Subject: Re: [endurance] first ride & sickle hocks
Speaking of As at vet checks, how many of you that ride stallions get Bs on
attitude because your horse is a bit exuberant? Do the vets wnat a dead
horse for pre ride check? I have found that it depends on the vet- some
like a spunky attitude (not bad, just lively) and others mark me down for
it. How seriously do you take the B in attitude for this? I tendd not to
take it seriously cause I know we will do fine on the ride...
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From: dluehosh@vt.edu (Gwen Dluehosh)
Subject: Re: [endurance] Arab's have brains and heart!
I have to agree with the circling thing. Several horses have done LOTs of
circles for me- including Kasey at Diane's! HE came a long way quickly...
Arabs figure t his out really easily.Gwen
Gwen Dluehosh ***!!!OPEN HOUSE JUNE 22, 1996!!!***
Desert Storm Arabians (|^|) "Pretty enough to show,
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From: BECHACK@aol.com
Subject: Re: [endurance] MSM, Adequan IM, Chondroitin Sulfate
Hey Kat...I'm with you first horse and all, you fall in love first and take
them home to meet the folks...and before you know it they live in your
barn...
Then you start to notice all of the little faults, some annoying, some
trivial, some just cosmetic, oh well. You keep them anyway, and compete
with them in any way that is safe and protective for them...thus my only
argument with NATRC...thank goodness they don't make illegal the braces I
wear !!! Back on really bad days, elbow brace on a good day, helmet ( as
someone else pointed out ) Why not mark off heavily for youngsters needing
corrective stuff, and give more for those over 10 or 15 years, hey we are
still going strong (me and the horse) So what if I need a little extra
support. It isn't DRUGS .
So anyway, I am not sure if I am talking about Husbands or horses, but I
treat them all the same...keep them around and love them the way they are
I also think your husband has the right idea, looking for the next horse when
the time comes with the eyes instead of the heart...
Happy trails Becky Hackworth Jam and Gina
From: BECHACK@aol.com
Subject: Re: [endurance] HRM usage
That is why we are here...I have lived in So Cal most of my (long) life, and
the humidity here is NOTHING. It is not a factor. Palm Springs is desert.
In fact the whole Southwest is desert, the only difference is some areas
have water added...Bring water and wear sunscreen, and you can ride all year!!!!
Becky Hackworth Alpine ( San Diego area ) CA
From: pisos@gnn.com (renee been)
Subject: Re: [endurance] More Bits
I too have a "beastie" who thinks that whoe is a four letter word. My
arms would fall off if I used a snaffle, but he is almost too sensitive for
the Kimberwicke that i use on him. I found a solution that he happens to
love however. I found some rubber vet wrap and wrapped the Kimberwicke. It
made it fatter which he seems to like. Then I made a polar fleece curb chain
guard. Now he seems to love the bit--and responds well to it without head
tossing etc. I've used it that way for three years, and just now had to
replace the rubber. I read some book on bits several years ago at a friends
house, and it was really good. It helped "diagnose" the horse problem and
helped match a bit with the problem. I found that I need stopping power, but
have an overly sensitive horse who tosses his head with the Kimberwicke,
which otherwise seemed to work. The book talked about ways to stop head
tossing---ie decrease discomfort (that's how I got the idea to cover the curb
chain) and the book also mentioned that a fatter bit, and a rubber bit also
decreases severity. The book did give the tip about wrapping a bit in
rubber. AT any rate "Fire" seems to love his bit now.
Renee Been Northern. CA & Fire
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:08:30 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "Diane E. Nelson" <nelsonde@ttown.apci.com>
>Sender: owner-endurance@moscow.com
>To: Alexandra <74672.737@compuserve.com>
>cc: unknown <endurance@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [endurance] More Bits
>
>Can you describe this bit in a little more detail? Also have you ever
>seen it advertised in a catalogue that we might refer to it? I'm looking
>for something for Mr T, the inconsiderate little beastie who thinks
>"Whoa" is a 4-letter word! We have a Kimberwicke, but it just makes him
>snarl. Snaffles...not hardly. Even a Vosal...he'll rub himself raw
>running through it.
>And Mom just doesn't feel like putting Mr. Snotty Puss back in the ring
>for Dressage 'r Us lessons. Gave him to Kevin for a reason, dontcha' know!
>Diane @ Safe Haven renee been
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From: RANDY EILAND <103406.572@compuserve.com>
Date: 02 May 96 12:01:27 EDT
Subject: [endurance] Respiration & CS'S
Garrett recently asked about respiration and it use as a criteria and how it
relates to his big Arab off thte track. Respiration is generally not used as a
criteria in itself anymore, only when other parameters of criteria indicate a
potential problem. The first time I remember Respiration not being a major part
of the P&R's was at the 1985 Race of Champions when Kerry Ridgeway decided that
the Cets would not be using it as a criteria unto itself, only if other
prameters indicated problems. After that race I quit using Respiration as a
factoring criteria on my rides (100+ since then) and I believe most endurance
rides no longer use it as a major criteria base. As to Garretts horse, it is my
experience that large horses and large bodied horses generally have higher
respiration rates, which is natures way of helping them cool down. Conditioning
does not make a big change in their respiration rates and at the same time it si
not something to worry about. I would suggest letting the Rdie Vet know that
your horse will ;pant or have higher respiration rates during the rid nd that it
is normal for this horse.
As to CS's, and our experience is with Adequan and Flexfree, Carol Dee and I
have the utmost respect for the substances and beleive that they will increase
the longevity and usefulness of all performance horses, and probably all horses!
Carol Dees mare, Katarinka, had suffered a slab fracture to a knee bone shortly
before we bought her. Our purchase was subject to a satisfactory Vet Exam and
30 days use to determine if she wqnted to be an endurance horse. When we had
her vetted the x-ray showed a fesh slab fracture with active calcification and
heat, pain upon flexing the knee and upon flexing the knee for one minute and
unwillingness to put weight on the lag for 2 to 3 strides at a trot. This is an
unbeleivabley beautiful Russian mare and very athletic looking and our Vet who
only works on horses and offices at the racetrack, suggested we put her on
Adequan once a week for 4 weeks and daily Flexfree and see if that would help
her. It was our first introduction to Flexfree & Adequan. We picked Katy up on
Dec. 17, 1993 and gave her 1st shot of Adequan the next week and began
conditioning her. We usually condition for at least 3 months on a new horse but
with the situation being as it was (the previous owner gave us an additional 60
days (90 total) to try her out) and not knowing if the Adequan would work or be
only a temporary fix, we put her into her first race in January of 1995 (one
month) which was a 2 day 100, raced her in Feb. in a 3 day 175 miler, in March
in the NM Renegade 5 Days 285 MIles and she never took an ouchy step, and went
on to finish several other rides that year. In 1995 she raced only in multi-day
races except for a one day 100 in October, finished 3rd FWT in the SW REgion and
is still absoulutely sound. I also own Blue Wind, a 19 year old gelding with
about 7,000 miles of races, most Top Ten. At 16 he began to get a little
arthritic becoming slightly stiff and sometimes stumbling. I decided to retire
him. The next year, 1994, my son Jerett, wanted to endurance ride again and his
regional champion mare was in foal, so we let him ride Blue. Blue had been on
Flexfree for several months and we gave him one shot of Adequan at the beginning
of the season. In 1994 Blue and Jerett finished the ride season winning 2nd
place National Junior Mileage Champion, 1st Place SW Region Junior Mileage
Champion, and 2nd place SW Region Junior. And now I am campaigning Blue again
at 19......he has not taken a stumble or stiff step since the Flexfree.
Needless to say, all of the horses we ride get Flexfree as part of their daily
diet. Both Flexfee and Adequan are substances that will not "test out" in drug
tests and neither are illegal within the AERC drug rules. Adequan should not be
given after you vet in and before you get a completion since it is administered
by needle.
My opinion as a dedicated horseman, AERC member & director ,and lover of
Endurance is: these substances such as Adequan, Flexfree, and the similar
substances are not "drugs" that mask injuries, pain, etc. that violate the
integrity of endurance riding. They are substances that help the horse's body
to function in a
in a natural way and to LAST LONGER. I think that we will be seeing more horses
campaigned into their late teens and twenties because of the advent of the CS's
and it will be in all the different performance events, not just endurance.
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