Morgans in Endurance--Was Endurance Clinic

["Linda B. Merims" <lbm@naisp.net>]

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeanne Slominski

To: RideCamp ; Linda B. Merims

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:39 PM

Subject: Re: Morgans in Endurance--Was Endurance Clinic

Linda,

 

I don't have any of the AMHA registries - books or CDs. The website has allot of the lineage already there. Adding a horse, with a few generations back, gives a total picture. Heck, it's free. I found it a lot of fun to be able to see just how far back I could go on my boys. I found that Sonny has a bit of Thorobred and Saddlebred blood.

 

Just an interesting, fun site - no more, no less.

 

Jeanne

 

 

Oh, I see.  Sorry, I misunderstood.

 

For anybody who is interested in Morgan bloodlines, the CD

as an absolute must.  Yeah, the first one is expensive (cheaper

if you join AMHA), but thereafter you get the updates fairly cheaply.

 

Here's WCM Beaumark Morgan (make your screen WIDE, so it doesn't wrap):

 

Sire:

 

Waseeka Thunderbolt

     Sire: Waseeka's Here Tiz

              Sire: Waseeka's Nocturne

                     Sire: Starfire (Senator Graham (Senator Knox x Fanita) x Wanda (Highview King (inbred Jubilee King) x TeePee)))

                     Dam: Upwey Benn Quietude (Upwey King Benn (Upwey King Peavine (ASB) x Audrey) x Quietude (Troubador of Willomoor x Ruth)))

              Dam: Waseeka's Thisizit

                     Sire: Parade (Cornwallis (Sealeact x Cornwall Lass) x Mansphyllis (Mansfield X Paragraph (by Jubilee King)))

                     Dam:  Upwey Benn Quietude (see above)

     Dam: Waseeka's Theme Song

               Sire: Waseeka's Nocturne

                     Sire: Starfire (see above)

                     Dam: Upwey Benn Quietude (see above)

               Dam: Mannequin

                     Sire: Mansfield (Bennington (General Gates x Mrs. Culvers) x Artemesia (Ethan Allen III x Lady Laura))

                     Dam: Flashlight (Delmont (Ulysses x ASB dam) x Walla Walla (Mansfield x Dew Drop (by Gen't Gates)))

 

Dam:

 

WCM Betsy Morgan

     Sire: UVM Flash

             Sire:  Upwey Ben Don (See Upwey Benn Quietude above)

             Dam: Norma

                      Sire: Canfield (see Mansfield above)

                      Dam: Romance (Bennington (see Mansfield above) x Narissa (Troubador of Willomoor x Ellen))

     Dam: Anneigh's Ballerina

             Sire: Dyberry Bob

                      Sire: Lippitt Billy Ash (Ashbrook (Croydon Prince x Nancy) x Lippitt Sallie (Billie Hoffman x Mary Allen)

                      Dam: Lippitt Miss Nekomia (Lippitt Moro (Moro x Croydon Mary) x Ne Komia (Ashbrook x Brigit))

             Dam: Marigold

                      Sire: Goldfield  (Mansfield (see above) x Juno (Forester x Gertrude)

                      Dam: Ingrid (Mansfield (see above) x Urnice (Bennington (see above) x Carolyn))

 

And this doesn't even show all the additional crosses back into General Gates that

are actually there.

 

If a horse descends from the government horses through General Gates, then it

has Thoroughbred in it (Gen'l Gates' dam was 1/2 TB).  If it descends through

Bennington, then it has saddlebred in it (Mrs. Culvers). The government farm

management was trying to get more size, and so crossed in TB and ASB

at intervals (e.g., Delmont, and the experiment that led to Upwey King Benn).

 

Some Morgan people are purists and go into fits of apoplexy

at the very idea of "impure blood".  Me, I've decided I don't believe in

closed stud books.  'Sides, Justin Morgan's sire was supposed to have

been a Thoroughbred, and in the 19th century Morgans and Saddlebreds

were considered just two variations on the same general type of horse

and were bred back and forth all the time to produce the modern ASB.

As late as 1935, the president of the Saddlebred Breeder's Association's

favorite horse was a mare whose dam was a Morgan.

 

Sonny's top is pure Brunk.

 

Linda B. Merims

lbm@naisp.net

Massachusetts, USA