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    [RC] fear vs willfulness - A. Perez


    Regarding the quotes below:  while there are the horses who do 
    truly stupid things out of dominance, I'd wager that many if 
    not most horses that break their necks by flipping themselves 
    over backwards while tied are reacting out of fear, not 
    willfulness, and it is crucial to distinguish fear from 
    willfulness when dealing with inapproiate behavior.  Attempting 
    to reason with or train any creature (equie or human) when they 
    are in a state of acute panic is pretty much a waste of time.  
    You need to get them calmed down before carefully, 
    incrementally desnsitizing them to the fearful stimulous.
    Classic signs of fear are trembling, excessive sweating, heart-
    pounding, attemped flight... I think most people will know it 
    when they see it.  This does not mean horses are not capable of 
    willfulness - my horse certainly is, but the difference is 
    clear.  If suddenly given his way during a 'willful' tempoer-
    tantrum, he'll immediately commence to grazing.  If it is a 
    panic attack, and he is suddenly given his way, he'd beat-feet 
    as far and as fast as he could.  
    
    To say it's all fear or all dominance is short-sighted.  You 
    have to consider the horse and the context, ans react 
    accordingly.
    
    "To think that a horse is THAT manipulative seems to me to be 
    anthropomorphic to the nth degree.  My understanding of horses 
    is that they are hard wired to be scared to death.  Period.
    
    They can, and they do.  And it has nothing to do with 
    anthropomorphism, manipulation, or fear.  It has to do with 
    dominance, ... It is deliberate wilfullness, not fearful--it is 
    calculated.  It is no different than stallions fighting to the 
    death ... But their instinct to be dominant can be so strong 
    that they will fight with every ounce they have, if they're so 
    disposed.  Horses like this are not the norm (although most 
    horses have some degree of this instinct), but when you 
    encounter one, they are dangerous indeed unless you can 
    establish yourself as the Herd Boss, as several others have 
    suggested."
    
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