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 Kathy, 
  
You will notice several omissions from that 
article.  Parelli does  NOT adress the horse that once HAD been 
trained to tie, but now uses it to get out of situations it plain does not want 
to do ( having mouth touched, etc).  And, at the end of the article, he 
makes no mention that this horse, with all this training....should be trained to 
be tied to a solid object!!  I am not talking about a truly panicked horse, 
but a spoiled one.   
  
As an example...I trained my  baby to tie, 
using methods similiar to Lyons.  In a very gentle, and progressive 
way/ 
She was handled a lot, and went a lot of places, 
also.  There came a day, however, when she decided she did not want to 
tie.  Period. Pull back, etc.  One session with a be-nice-halter 
(which, by the way, is designed FOR THIS, and releases pressure when they come 
forward), was all it took to convince her that being tied meant being 
tied.  No matter what the other horses were doing, etc. 
  
Even with the young horses....no matter how 
"natural", ,kind, progressive, savvy or whatever you want to call a gentle 
approach....there WILL be a point there is something they DON'T want to 
do.  You WILL have to make them do it!! 
Or they start learing bad habits.  Will they 
pull back, buck, rear?  Hopefully, if you have instilled compliance, 
through 
repitition and reward......the obeidience will come 
with nobody getting hurt. 
Karen 
  
  
  
  
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  Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:17 
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  Subject: [RC] Making Dog Food! 
  
  Personally, I do not believe, no 
  matter what anyone says,  that a horse would go to the lengths of 
  comitting suicide because it's 'spoiled' or because it's so conniving that it 
  wants to annoy it's owner.  To think that a horse is THAT manipulative 
  seems to me to be anthropomorphic to the nth degree.  My understanding of 
  horses is that they are hard wired to be scared to death.  Period. By 
  tieing them and letting them thrash it out, it seems to me that you're just 
  aiding and abetting them to that end.  Literally scaring them to 
  death.  Sure the horse may come through it and live to understand that 
  it's 'ok' to be tied.  But why take that kind of risk??  What on 
  earth is the point except to save time? The link below is to The horse.com 
  and offers some explanations and solutions for the horse that won't tie. I 
  don't presume to be a pet psychic so I will never assume to KNOW beyond a 
  shadow of a doubt that my horse is trying to pull a fast one on me, no matter 
  what she does. I will always allow whatever time it takes to approach any 
  problems as safely as possible for all concerned.  I hope for our horse's 
  sakes as well as for our own that  most of us horse owners feel the same 
  way. Cheers, Kathy
 
  Click here: TheHorse.com: Your 
  Online Guide to Equine Health Care  
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