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    Re: [RC] Sharing expenses to rides - Jon . Linderman

    Another example of the sad adage "No good deed goes unpunished!"
    I pooled with my friend last weekend for the first time and we are good
    enuf friends that I think we worked it out well.  I packed as neatly and
    completey as I could so as not to hog space.  I picked a bucket of apples
    off my trees for our horses to share and brought some "end of season"
    libation to toast a good year for us both.  I think we communicated any
    apprehensions about issues ahead of time.  She thought I paid too much for
    gas but told her to deal with it.  I am waiting to hear if I rang up a bill
    on her cell phone when my battery went dead.........no one's gonna see me
    listed on RC as a mooch!
    Communication was they key to us being compatible and fortunately for us
    our horses are compatible too.  I do agree that the hitchhiker should
    really go out of their way to help in whatever way they can.  I would
    gladly share the ride w/her and others of my friends as well.
    Jon K. Linderman, Ph.D., FACSM
    Assistant Professor of Health and Sport Science
    University of Dayton
    300 College Park
    Dayton, OH 45469-1210
    Voice:(937) 229-4207
    FAX: (937) 229-4244
                          "Rebecca Rohwer"                                                                                                   
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                          durance.net                  Subject:  Re: [RC]   Sharing expenses to rides                                        
                          11/01/2002 02:09 PM                                                                                                
         The subject of travel and sharing cost is almost as sticky as wearing
    a helmet versus not.  Anyway, the group I am in have been using a system
    that seems to work well.  The trick is to make sure that people know up
    front what you expect from them if you haul them and their horse to a ride.
    We charge by the mile.  I think this past summer what was used for an
    amount was 13 cents per mile.  The owner of the vehicle pays for all the
    gas, but is then reimbursed at the mileage rate.
              Asking for money from a friend or stranger is a hard thing to do,
    but you know how much it cost to travel to a ride, not to mention the wear
    and tear on your rig.  So come up with what you think is fair and lay it on
    the table before you even take off for the ride.
         It's no so much how much to charge or the method you choose, mileage,
    share gas, what ever.  It's laying it out up front that avoids hard
    feelings afterwards.
    Happy trails,
    Becky R.
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: DeAnn Schnepple
     Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:06 AM
     To: PNER Moderator; ridecamp
     Subject: [RC] Sharing expenses to rides
     This is endurance related, but not horse related.  I wonder how other
     endurance riders handle sharing expenses to the rides.
     The reason I ask is this last year I answered a post from a women that had
     move from southern California and rode when she was a kid.  She posted on
     RC that she was boarding in the Beavercreek, Oregon area, but didn't know
     a thing about endurance or the trails system that her boarding facility
     was on.  She also didn't have a truck, trailer or camper.  I loaned her my
     heart rate monitor and even my saddle. She did have an Arabian horse, so
     she thought she wanted to try endurance.  Being the type of person I am
     (with 12 years of AERC membership, endurance riding, truck, camper and
     trailer), plus knowing the entire trail system in the Beavercreek area, I
     called her and showed her the trails and offered to haul her to two
     endurance rides.  The last ride was Alpine and she actually brought home a
     second horse, (the raffle horse), which I hauled in my trailer all the way
     back to Beavercreek.  My question is, do most people that share rides
     share the gas as well and when hauling an extra horse do they charge a
     hauling fee?  I didn't know this person that well and to my surprise when
     I got home from the last ride she had charged up over $25.00 in cell phone
     use on my phone (without asking).  I felt petty asking to be reimbursed
     for the cell phone charges, but I did, in a nice way.  To date she has not
     paid anything.  I'm also missing a nice HRM now too, but that's my mistake
     for being too trusting.  Is this typical when you "share" a trip to a
     ride?  The only thing I have to compare it to is true friends that I have
     hauled to rides.  Of course they always are extremely gracious and
     appreciative to have someone do all the driving and to be able to be in a
     nice warm camper.  All my other friends would always stay behind when we
     got home and even clean up the camper with me.  This one would just get
     her stuff and leave.  Maybe I'm being too picky, but I thought I'd just
     ask fellow ride campers how they handle these type of people.  Of course
     she will not be going with me anymore (I learned that lesson the hard
     way).   Thanks for your input.
     DeAnn #12874
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