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    Re: [RC] carob products - OK, actually Carbohydrates, nothing to do with a cheap imitation of chocolate - Karen J. Zelinsky

    I hear you!! :)))) 
    On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:51:38 -0400 "Charles" <cdy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    I know, but I wasn't going to mention it.  Besides, Chocolate or chocolate like products are a lot more interesting than just plain Carbo's. 
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:47 AM
    Subject: [RC] carob products

    Spelling, spelling, spelling - it has a lot to do with meaning... please correct ME if I am wrong -- there are two completely different words with dififerent meanings:
    Carob = a bean - a kind of chocolate flavor
    Carbo = abbreviation for carbohydrates -- an form of energy
    I have a feeling that your subject is not "carob products" but carbo products.
    picky Karen
    On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:09:16 -0400 "Charles" <cdy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
    From my days on the Lo Carb lists I've been told:
    Bodybuilders avoid carbs to avoid fat.  Fat keeps their muscles from having good definition.
    I'm told by Ray Audette (Author of NeanderThin) that the more successful marathon runners have a high fat and protein dinner the night before.  Fats and proteins take longer to digest so you end up with energy for a longer period.  Also, it avoids the spiking of blood glucose levels and resultant insulin spike and blood sugar crash.    
    Finally, in Humans endurance events (like "I walked across the South Pole pulling a sled by myself") the diet is extremely high fat.  (This last part came in an interview on Fresh Air with Terri Gross).  I forget the guy's name, but to prepare for his walks, he ate several pounds of fat a day.  (It actually sounded kind of gross).
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Sandy Terp
    Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:06 AM
    Subject: [RC] carob products

    There are a lot of different theories out there.  Read everything you can and make your own decision based on what you and your horse need.
    I gave some serious thought to the fat/carbo thing and here is my opinion and it is just that.  When weight lifters want to put on muscle they eat higher than normal protein/fat diets.  When marathon runners eat the night before a race and during a race they eat carbs.  It has been working for them for a long time.  There is lots of research there.  We do not have the research just some one or two rat studies not in controlled situations.  I feed my horses for what I am doing with them at that particular point in their career.
    Sandy Terp