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    Re: [RC] thumps - DABNEY FINCH


        I am aboslutely convinced thumps are genetically predisposed.  Gary and
    I had two full brother geldings who were both marvelous endurance horses
    EXCEPT that both were predisposed to thumps (esp. in hot weather--even when
    other vet scores were all As) ; they also took a longer time to recover  at
    VCs than our other endurance horses.  None of our other endurance horses
    have ever thumped except these two brothers.
        We finally arrived at a formula that worked, as tested in a particularly
    hot Californios 100: LyteNow at half doses every hour.  (Higher in calcium
    than other e-lytes.)
        Also, Mike Thomlinson, DVM, recommended to us once that the liquid
    calcium administered to cows was used for horses that tended to thump on the
    international rides he vetted . . .  I tried it once as a precautionary and
    thought it burned my horse's mouth, but it might be worth having around in
    the event of.  Hopefully not necessary if you follow the "little bit every
    hour"  approach.
        Another thing Dr. Thomlinson told us was to limit alfalfa.  Just a tiny
    bit daily, but then do feed more of it right before a race.  (Apparently the
    horse's body learns its getting so much calcium from the alfalfa it figures
    it doesn't need to store it, if you feed alot of it--I've done that with
    e-lytes fed on a daily basis and gotten in Big Trouble, so makes sense to
    me.)
        Hope this helps!
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "John & Sue Greenall" <greenall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 2:23 PM
    Subject: [RC] thumps
    
    
    > Can there be a "slight" case of thumps?  As in tying up, there are
    > degrees?  Will calcium always correct it?  Can a horse have a
    > "predisposition" for thumps (like tying up)?  So we have all heard
    > that electrolytes will "prevent" thumps, but is there a "magic
    > number" for the amount of Ca+ needed to do this?  And if the horse
    > is thumping, is there a source of Ca+ (such as cows get) that is
    > recommended for horses?
    > Yep, gotta new Morgan that seems to stress out in company and
    > "thump".  I think?
    > John and Sue Greenall
    > mailto:greenall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > http://www.vermontel.com/~greenall
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