Ridecamp: Re: [RC] Your Ride History/Pulls

At last year's mid-year board meeting, I made a motion to list the pull
codes as follows:
L = lame, pulled by vet
M = metabolic, pulled by vet
OT = overtime
RO = rider withdrew for personal reasons relating to the rider
RO-L = rider withdrew the horse because of lameness considerations
RO-M = rider withdrew the horse because of metabolic considerations

The last two were additions to the usual ones.  My feeling was that making
the differentiation between vet disqualification and rider choice would
relieve the stigma of having the horse DQ'd, show it was the rider's wisdom
that prompted the withdrawal, and yet give the AERC and the vets the
information they seek for educational purposes.  The board voted it down.  I
still think it is a good idea, and it is the system I use on our own ride
results.

Barbara

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From: "Rides 2 Far" <rides2far@xxxxxxxx>
To: <cherylrandy@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 11:31 AM
Subject: [RC] Your Ride History/Pulls


> >     I have to agree with Frank.  The heroes (and heroines) of this
> > sport are the ones without the egos involved in the horse or rider pull
> rate,  namely our horses.
>
> I don't understand how that has anything to do with whether a pull rate
> matters.  If a person who wants lots of miles can start every ride
> without pulls showing up on their record, I think they'd be more likely
> to start a ride when their horse is questionable. How does that help the
> "silent heros" of our sport?  I'm not talking about any person in
> particular here...strictly hypothetical situation.
>
> Now that we've added the pull codes there's a new twist, and more room
> for ride managers to give their friends a little help.  Someone told me
> the vets weren't happy with so many horses being listed as "rider
> option".  They wanted "rider option" to mean the RIDER needed to stop,
> nothing more.
>
>   So...last week at Kentucky there were lots of pulls.  This is the first
> time I've seen a manager do this, and it probably only happened because
> he was inexperienced and didn't realize nobody ever does this...but he
> read off all the pulls and the reason at the ride meeting.  My daughter's
> horse had passed his vet check and was cleared to go but we felt lameness
> and pulled him.  It was listed as "lameness" not rider option.  A good
> friend's horse was having trouble meeting pulse criteria.  He did not run
> out of his 30 minutes to get the pulse down but he and the vet discussed
> it and he chose to pull himself without trying to make the deadline (the
> horse did come down within 30 min). He was listed as a metabolic pull not
> rider option.  Another friend quit because *she* the rider, was in pain.
> That was listed as rider option.  From what I understand, that's the way
> the vets want it done.  I can see that the data will be more valuable if
> managers *all* record it that way.  Granted, my daughter and friend
> weren't pulled, they pulled themselves but the reasons really were
> metabolic and lameness.  Now...are managers in other regions going to do
> it like this, or will the Southeast get labeled as having far more
> metabolic and lameness problems while other regions have more rider
> option?
>
> The stigma you describe is self inflicted.  Data is only one part of an
> equation...but it's helpful.  I think you can look up my record and you'd
> probably say you wouldn't mind selling a horse you liked to me.  I did
> have one year and one horse where I got pulled at about 5 rides for
> lameness (never took a lame step at home and never made it to a 1st check
> without one) , but when you look at the whole picture and all the other
> horses I've ridden, the picture is of a fairly conservative rider.  If
> you look up someone else and they have 4 wins and 4 metabolic pulls, that
> tells you something.
>
> In my opinion, the greatest defense our horses have against our getting
> carried away and over riding them is peer pressure.  Putting that data
> out there keeps us accountable.  It's useless if it's not honest.
>
> Angie
>
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