Ridecamp: Re: [RC] Ulcer Research/USA Druggies?

Seems to me that any test protocol that requires withholding food  for 
12 hours and withhold water for 6 hours is counter indicated for a horse 
going on an endurance ride. I don't know of many people who would follow 
this protocol if they were planning on doing the ride. Seems that if 
this is a requirement for a valid test, that the utility of these test 
will be marginal at best.

Is that how you see it Bob or did I miss something?

Truman

Bob Morris wrote:

> Mike:
>
> You stated, >>>Remember, most of us are theoretically
> already riding horses
> with ulcers. >>>
>
> Your references state<<<Prior to submitting to an endoscopic
> examination for ulcers, a horse will have his food withheld
> for about 12 hours, and he won't be allowed to drink water
> for about six hours before the exam.>>>
>
> <<<a horse whose routine remains relatively consistent from
> day to day probably isn't going to have problems with
> ulcers.>>>
>
> <<<In the mid and late 1980's sophisticated endoscopes were
> used to demonstrate that up to 50% of young foals and up to
> 90% of racehorses developed gastric  lesions>>>>
>
> <<<This condition is present in up to 50% of foals, 95% of
> weanlings after halter breaking, and 85% of race horses in
> training>>>
>
> I do not believe this supports your contention most of us
> are theoretically already riding horses with ulcers.
>
> I also do not believe the intubation to look for ulcers will
> be all that successful when done at/after an endurance ride
> as very few, if any, owners will with hold food and water as
> is required.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Morris
> Morris Endurance Enterprises
> Boise, ID
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike
> Sofen
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [RC] Ulcer Research/USA Druggies?
>
>
> Here's a few links:
>
> general equine ulcer article:
> http://horses.about.com/cs/aboutequisearch/a/eqhorseulc217.h
> tm
>
>
> the 90% of performance horses link:
> http://horse-canada.com/html/articles/HMulcers05.99.htm
>
> various treatment protocols described:
> http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/Iwecrl/pudaut.htm
>
> more
> http://www.cvm.okstate.edu/research/reports/1998_report/equi
> nemedicine.html
>
>
> Mike Sofen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Morris [mailto:bobmorris@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:42 AM
> To: msofen@xxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [RC] Ulcer Research/USA Druggies?
>
>
> Mike:
>
> You stated, >>>Remember, most of us are theoretically
> already riding horses
> with ulcers. >>>
>
> On what authority do you base this statement? What data
> supports this conjecture? If this is true then is this not a
> very good argument against the sport?
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Morris
> Morris Endurance Enterprises
> Boise, ID
>
>
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