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    RE: [RC] Ulcer Research/USA Druggies? - Bob Morris


    Mike:
    
    You stated, >>>Remember, most of us are theoretically
    already riding horses
    with ulcers. >>>
    
    Your references state<<<Prior to submitting to an endoscopic
    examination for ulcers, a horse will have his food withheld
    for about 12 hours, and he won't be allowed to drink water
    for about six hours before the exam.>>>
    
    <<<a horse whose routine remains relatively consistent from
    day to day probably isn't going to have problems with
    ulcers.>>>
    
    <<<In the mid and late 1980's sophisticated endoscopes were
    used to demonstrate that up to 50% of young foals and up to
    90% of racehorses developed gastric  lesions>>>>
    
    <<<This condition is present in up to 50% of foals, 95% of
    weanlings after halter breaking, and 85% of race horses in
    training>>>
    
    I do not believe this supports your contention most of us
    are theoretically already riding horses with ulcers.
    
    I also do not believe the intubation to look for ulcers will
    be all that successful when done at/after an endurance ride
    as very few, if any, owners will with hold food and water as
    is required.
    
    Bob
    
    Bob Morris
    Morris Endurance Enterprises
    Boise, ID
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike
    Sofen
    Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:01 AM
    To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: [RC] Ulcer Research/USA Druggies?
    
    
    Here's a few links:
    
    general equine ulcer article:
    http://horses.about.com/cs/aboutequisearch/a/eqhorseulc217.h
    tm
    
    
    the 90% of performance horses link:
    http://horse-canada.com/html/articles/HMulcers05.99.htm
    
    various treatment protocols described:
    http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/Iwecrl/pudaut.htm
    
    more
    http://www.cvm.okstate.edu/research/reports/1998_report/equi
    nemedicine.html
    
    
    Mike Sofen
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bob Morris [mailto:bobmorris@xxxxxxxx]
    Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:42 AM
    To: msofen@xxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: RE: [RC] Ulcer Research/USA Druggies?
    
    
    Mike:
    
    You stated, >>>Remember, most of us are theoretically
    already riding horses
    with ulcers. >>>
    
    On what authority do you base this statement? What data
    supports this conjecture? If this is true then is this not a
    very good argument against the sport?
    
    Bob
    
    Bob Morris
    Morris Endurance Enterprises
    Boise, ID
    
    
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