RE: Teeth, worms and the XP 2001

["Kathy Mayeda" <kathy_mayeda@atce.com>]

1. Dentist - definitely needed by my horse every six months.  I let
it go too long and had it done at nine months and he was cranky with
the bit.  But..... my mare has never had her teeth done and she's 
just being a broodmare.  Shame on me.  But she's definitely too fat
right now and not in my care because she's on a breed lease so it's
not something I sweat bullets over.

2.  Worming.  I tried the Panacur 5 day purge.  I think they package
it as the "PowerPack" or something.  Eleanor Kellon says you can
use Safeguard which is the same product but cheaper since it's marketed
for cattle.  Seemed to make quite a difference in condition.  Probably
October and March with zimectrin every two months in between will be
my standard protocol from now on.  I'm not likely to use Quest anymore.
There were some horror stories re: Quest circulating around and even
the vet that I talked to at the last shot clinic recommended the
Panacur Purge in lieu of Quest.

3.  Good luck finding crew!  I wish I could just take off and do it.

Kathy



-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Burgess [mailto:carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:44 AM
To: krisolko@juno.com; ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: RC: Teeth, worms and the XP 2001


On the dentist:

My dentist says every six months, my vet says annually, so we usually 
compromise and have him come every 9 months.

On worming, here's what I do (I'm sure everyone has there own):
January - ivermectin (they are all made by Merck, by the cheapest)
Ivermectin is good for 60 days.

March - A benzadole family of wormer (Safeguard, Panacur, Anthelcide or
the 
like).  This is good for 45 days.

Mid-April - Strongid or Rotectin 2 (pyrantel pamoate).  This is also
good 
for 45 days.

June - Either Ivermectin again or you can use Quest.  Ivermectin is good
for 
60 days, Quest is 90 days.

August(if you did Ivermectin in June) - A benzadole family of wormer 
(Safeguard, Panacur, Anthelcide or the like).  This is good for 45 days.
If 
you used Quest in June, skip this and go straight to September.

Mid-September - Double (or triple) does of Strongid or Rotectin 2
(pyrantel 
pamoate).  This is the only way to kill tapeworms.  My vet used to
recommend 
a double dose, but now recommends a triple dose.  This is good for 45
days.

November - ivermectin (good for 60 days).

Another way to do it is to just rotate the four types of products 
(ivermectin/benzadole/pyrantel/Quest using the time frames that the
products 
are good for).  The tubes are usually rated up to either 1100 or 1200 
pounds.  I always give the entire tube, even if the horse is only 800 or
900 
lbs.  There has been significant testing on these products by the 
manufacturers and they are very safe.  Most of these products toxicity 
levels are reported at anywhere between 10 - 50 times the recommended 
dosages.  Something that has toxicity at 3 - 5 times the recommended
dosage 
is not considered a safe product and usually is administered by a vet. 
(Sources for this information come directly from the manufactures and
The 
Compendia of Veterinary Medicine).

Carolyn Burgess
carolyn_burgess@hotmail.com

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>Kind of interesting title, eh? So,
>
>1. How often should teeth be routinely checked/filed? I say 10 - 12
>months. Hubby says longer.
>
>2. What is the best rotation for wormers? What's the timing? I don't
want
>to do a daily thing.
>
>3. Anyone want to crew for me for the XP 2001? I've lost my crew and
>don't know where to find one. I need
>a driver who can load and unload horses. Feeding would be good.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kris
>
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