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Re: RC: Any English riders out there?
> I use Wintec Webbers instead of
stirrup leathers--they're single
> layer with a loop on top for slipping
onto the stirrup bars. Can't
> imagine going back to conventional
leathers after years in these.
Does Wintec have a
website? What catalogs do you get? All my catalogs, exect for Millers are
> Cinches, or rather "girths" are something you choose based on
> horse's preference. Katee of Advantage Saddlery has good
> girths--as long as you're riding in an area that doesn't have
Where is Katee? how do
I get ahold of them?
> Some horses like neoprene--I've only had good luck with
those made by
> Ortho-flex. You'd have to find one used now, or on
I have an western neoprene cinch made by Ortho-flex. I
had problems with my horses swelling up with it. I have also had that problem
with the cotton cinches and swelling because of the skin getting
pinched. And those were expenses cinches.
any case, you want "roller buckles" on your girth.
> Wintec makes
a $30 one with hidden elastic in the center, that works
> well for a
friend who rides in one of our RP saddles. It's easy to
overtighten a girth that has elastic and roller buckles. Elastic
allows the horse to take deep breaths without being constrained, but
careful evaluating girths with elastic at the end--they can pinch
the elastic can wear out.
> Some of us even use leather girths--I
do, but it's made of the
> material inside ballet shoes, and I have to
clean it daily so it
> retains its softness. I use it because it
has elastic in the center
> and a wide belly plate, cut in at the elbow
I not only ride, but I have three daughters that ride
with me. I can't imagine finding the time to clean cinches everytime we ride. So
I know that leather would not work for me, in fact I have been trying to stay
away from leather because of the time factor. Although I really like leather.
> Some people affix little grommets on the front of their
pads and tie
> it to the dee rings.
There a good idea.
> One note on
the French link bits--lay the bit you're considering flat
> on the
counter. If the center piece lies flat, then that is indeed a
French link. If it angles back, then it's a Dr. Bristol, and is much
> Arabs generally have low palates, so thick
bits can be a problem.
> Some do better in mullen mouths (more like a
straight bar, with a low
> port for tongue relief.) Personally,
I've found that the Myler
> hackamore works best for my mare, who is
strong at the starts--well,
> not like she used to be, but it is indeed
insurance. I use the one
> with a soft leather cover over a chain;
it's got "S" shanks, but
> unlike the popular "S" hackamore in use, the
curb chain actually is
> in the proper position for Arabians. The
"S" shanks are effectively
> shorter, so that the horse can drink from
shallower puddles than what
> a Sliester hackamore with long shanks would
allow. They're also
> handier for drinking from stock tanks and
eating hay or other chow
> along the way.
I started my arab, Apache, on the little S hackamore.
He went great in it in the first year. But them he figured out he could do what
ever he wanted in it. So I steadily lost control. He was young at the time. So I
switched to a twisted snaffle bit that I had. He goes pretty good in that, but
he gets sores from the bit on the corners of his mouth, I have to put vet wrap
on the bit to keep from soring him. So he has a very sensitive mouth, and I need
a different bit. He absolutly hates the curb bits that I have tried on him.
Fights me every step of the way.
I am very curious about your statement about the little
"S" hackamore curb chain being in the wrong position for Arabs, could you please
explain that further?
> Mine go in a snaffle or French
link for arena work. I use flat reins
> as a personal
> Your question made me reflect on all the gear
changes my girl has
> gone through over the years. Laughing
at the amount of thought and
> $ that has gone into her current bridle:
Zilco hackamore headstall,
> thin Pat Fredrickson rope halter underneath,
Myler S hack, nylon and
> three strand curb chain, pet tag for ID, Zilco
10 ft rubberized flat
> reins--and at the lunch check, we're down to the
rope halter and
> reins. :-) Never thought my fire-breathing
mare would be able to do
> it. Bought a new Pat F. halter with
sidepull rings and tried it on
> the last ride; my mare liked it better
than having the reins hooked
> to the halter loop--the scissor snaps
could hit her in the chin if I
> didnt' keep some tension on the
reins. Now I can ride on the
> "buckle" again, a great English
expression meaning the reins are so
> loose you're holding them by the
buckle in the middle...
Thanks alot for the info. YOu have been very
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