Re: Conditioning Tips/Arena

["Tamara Jane Habberley" <tamarahabberley@lineone.net>]

> <How  many 60 meter cirlcles would you have to do to get 3 years of  20 to
30 miles a week on the trial. A 60 meter circle is a bit less than 1/8 of a

well Beth  I suppose you saved us all from a" it aint the size its what you
do with it" debate!

Tamara;-)))

p.s I agree with the points you made Beth v. elequent

----- Original Message -----
From: Beth Glace <lb@nismat.org>
To: Susan Garlinghouse <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>;
<ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: RC: Conditioning Tips/Arena


> Hi Truman and Sue,
> Rather than thinking about how many circles it would take to get in x
> amount of miles, I'd rather think of how minutes it is going to take to
> get in x amount of miles.  I know that at a comfortable trot on the trail
> my horse typically travels 10-14 mph [depending on incline, surface
> etc].  In the ring she moves at about 7-8 mph; for any hour I spend in
> the ring I typically trot for about 45 minutes, covering approximately
> 5+ miles.  Add in walking distance, and probably 1/2 -1 mile at the
> canter, and we have done a reasonable amount of mid-week [or
> midwinter] mileage.  I NEVER get bored in the ring.  I generally plan
> out what I am going to work on before I get on, and will sometimes
> ride dressage tests.  Challenges my memory and her attention, for
> sure.  Will always do lots of patterns and gait and pace changes,
> throw in jumping 2'6" fences [which she loves]. Just going round and
> round might cover some miles, but you might as well actually school
> while you are there.  Be creative.  As Sue points out, having worked
> with excellent dressage and 3-day trainers gives one lots to think
> about in the ring.  Is it the same as doing the harder pace, with hills,
> on the trail? No.  But it is a decent workout, and sometimes the only
> option.
> Beth Glace
>
> Truman wrote:
> <How  many 60 meter cirlcles would you have to do to get 3 years of  20 to
30 miles a week on the trial. A 60 meter circle is a bit less than 1/8 of a
>  mile,
> Sue wrote:
> > Why do guys always get so hung up on size?  I can go downstairs, put
> > in a video and get a helluva cardio workout never moving from the
> > basement. Doing serpentines, half passes and shoulder-in across an
> > arena, I can put plenty of stress on tendon, ligament and build quite
> > a bit of muscle.
>
> > I'm not sure they're designed to crawl over rock outcroppings or
> > through deep sand for 50 or 100 miles, either, but we ask them to do
> > it anyway.  And there's a big difference between a balanced circle and
> > flailing around in something that approximates a round shape.
>
> > If all a rider can think of to do in an arena is trot 60 m circles for
> > hour after hour, then they should probably stay at home, anyway, lest
> > they be confused by all those nasty letters and cones and things.
> > Guess I was just lucky to have worked with a world-class
> > trainer---both I and my horses saw it all as games, and pretty lively
> > and challenging ones at that.  And he came out of it fit enough to
> > scamper through a straight-up-straight-down LD immediately afterwards
> > and through a damn tough 50 two weeks after that. Was he ready to win,
> > nope.  Did he finish it easily with good recoveries, yup.
> >
> > Susan G
> >
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