Re: RC: Re: panacur 2x/5days

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Thank you sooo much, Dolly
I used to use panacur as a rotation but my vet advised me that Ivermec
was better and need not be rotated. Glad to have the facts.
BTW I am now on a parasite program for myself. Hulda Clark, Masters in
cellular physiology and a degree in biology, just wrote a book: The Cure
for All Cancers. Her theory is that many of our human diseases come from
parasites in OUR bodies, including cancers. Book makes a lot of sense
and she said the majority of our parasites come from underboiled milk
products, undercooked meats, and from pets. Boy that got my attention.
How many times have you been out on trail, fooled with your horses bit
and then eaten lunch without washing your hands with antibacterial soap?
When I first took the herbs, I got VERY sick; my husband who does not
have the health problems I have, did not feel a thing. Two days later I
felt great! Tell me if wasn't all the little buggers dying off and
getting out of my system. The book is definitely worth a perusal.
Thanks again for the info.
Bette
Bette Lamore
Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of TLA Halynov
http://www.stormnet.com/~woa
I've learned that life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer it
gets to the end, the faster it goes. Smell the roses!

Thanks again!
Bette
Dolly Miller wrote:
> 
> Susan,
> I just received this from a Dr. that is a parasitologist major. I have
> been finding out all I can about encysted larvae because my new horse
> that I had for 3 mo. died from these and prior worm damage. I was told
> that he had been wormed regular.
> Dolly
> 
> >     Basic Information About Worming Products
> >
> >     1.  The biggest problem we have with larval migration is with
> >
> >         the small strongyles - the large strongyles do not migrate.
> >
> >         The small ones encyste and cause problems.
> >
> >     2.  Strongid C does not get the encysted larvae. It only kills
> >
> >         the ones that the horse ingests, and this is only for
> >
> >         approximatley 8 hours per 24 hours dose period. Strongid C
> >
> >         also leads to resistance.   It is useful for some
> >
> >         applications- see below.
> >
> >     3.  Ivermection does not kill encysted larvae.
> >
> >     4.  Quest and Panacur do kill encysted larvae, if used
> >
> >         appropriately.   Use in a horse that has not had regular
> >
> >         worming programs can be fatal due to massive kill off.
> >
> >         Also, with these wormers, do NOT overdose- use
> >
> >         only the amount of paste appropriate for your horses weight.
> >
> >     5.  The best program is one of rotating products ( chemical
> >
> >         names, not brand names ) every 6-8 weeks, with a product
> >
> >         to kill encysted larvae in the spring and in the fall-
> >
> >         see below under regular maintenance.
> >
> >
> >     Yearly Regimen
> >
> >     Feb. 1, an ivermectin product ( Zimectrin, Equimectrin
> >
> >     April 1, 5 days straight with panacur ( to kill encysted
> >
> >     larvae ). this needs to be given between March 15 and April 15
> >
> >     for this part of the country.
> >
> >     June 1, strongid paste
> >
> >     August 1, ivermectin
> >
> >     October 1, Quest 2 days in a row. This needs to be given
> >
> >     between Sept, 15 and Oct. 15
> >
> >     December 1, strongid
> >
> >
> >     Regimen for a new horse whose worming history is unknown,
> >
> >     no matter how good he may look:
> >
> >
> >     1.  Strongid C daily, as directed on carton, for 2 weeks continuosley.
> >
> >         This will kill off some of the more  susceptible worms, and reduce
> >
> >         the kill off in the next stages.
> >
> >     2.  After this, at the end of second week, give Panacur paste.
> >
> >     3.  Two weeks later, use an ivermectin product.
> >
> >     4.  One month after that, use Quest ( one dose only ).
> >
> >     5.  Then start the year;y regimen.
> >
> >
> >     Regimen for a horse that has been rotation wormed with
> >
> >     alternating ivermectin and strongid products over a long
> >
> >     period of time.
> >
> >
> >     1.  One dose of Panacur.
> >     2.  One month later, another dose of Panacur.
> >     3.  One month later, give Panacure 5 days in a row.
> >     4.  One month later, use one dose of Quest.
> >     5.  Then start yearly regimen.
> >
> >
> >     The inportance of following these regimens:
> >
> >     All above regimens are designed to reduce the number
> >
> >     of the parasites in the horse so that when you give the strong
> >
> >     wormers that will get the encysted larvae, that you will not
> >
> >     cause such a massive kill off that you make the horse ill,
> >
> >     or at worse, kill the horse.  There is a  syndrome called
> >
> >    " winter syndrone",  which occurs when you use a strong wormer
> >
> >    on a horse with a history ( known to you or not ) of inadequate
> >
> >    control of encysted parasites.This is part of why Quest has gotton
> >
> >    bad press.  What happens, is that the kill off is more than the
> >
> >    horse can handle, and he becomes ill with colic like symptoms,
> >
> >    including inflammatory lesions in the intestinal tract.  It is not
> >
> >    the wormer itself that kill the horse, it is the kill off.
> >
> >    If you start slowly on a new horse or one with inadequate control
> >
> >    of encysted parasites, then you reduce the kill off, and can
> >
> >    develop an effective preventive anti-parasite program.
> >
> >
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