Re: RC: Re: CRI

[Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>]

Move over, Ti
Heidi accused me of trying to use ridecamp to promote my stallion when I
debated her over her slamming tall horses (15.2+), saying they were
almost all of poor quality. I pointed out she was traveling in the wrong
circles. Seems to be a strategy of hers. So keep selling your GL and
I'll keep selling my tall horses and we'll let time be the judge of
quality. BTW, Heidi, Pico Nightrider, a 16.1 son of Hal seems to doing
pretty well for Valery and his rider Kristen Snook in the AERC
standings. This is one for the tall team! (Ti, you got your kudos at Abu
Dhabi).
Bette 

CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/20/00 11:27:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, Tivers@aol.com
> writes:
> 
> << It's a sport, and "stuff happens" in a sport, but
>  when the stuff  happens, it is the rider who has the vested interest in the
>  animal, not the vet. In this day of the government "protecting us from
>  ourselves", I am always suspicious of the underlying motives of the
>  self-appointed morality police--particularly those risking nothing in the
>  sport. >>
> 
> 1)  The vets would not be there if riders did not want them there.  It's a
> free country, folks can join AERC or not, folks can elect directors to do
> away with vets at rides if they so choose.  Furthermore, they can go out and
> start rides that are not AERC rides and are not under veterinary control.
> How many of you riders out there DO NOT WANT the input of the ride vets,
> imperfect as we may be?  Show of cyber hands??
> 
> 2)  A great number of us ride vets are also riders, and fully appreciate how
> focused we can get in competition.  I don't think there is a rider out there
> (if they are honest with themselves and if they have ridden very long) that
> can't think of a time when they knew, in their souls, that the horse should
> not go on but when it has taken a gentle suggetion from a ride vet to point
> out the obvious.
> 
> 3)  Most ride vets (including myself) try hard NOT to act like ride police.
> I've kept track over the years, and I have "had" to pull, so far, a grand
> total of only 8 riders.  ALL the rest of them that have pulled at rides where
> I have vetted have pulled themselves after a frank discussion of how their
> horses are doing--sometimes including having someone else trot their horse so
> they can view it.  Most of us (and most under whom I've ridden) make
> suggestions about what they might do (or not do) if it were their horse.  You
> are right--this is a sharp bunch of riders, and they KNOW when their horses
> have problems.  They use the ride vets as sounding boards, and decisions to
> pull are virtually always mutual.  We do not "govern" these people--we try to
> help them do the best they can with their horses.
> 
> 4)  As far as being suspicious about underlying motives--you bet, I'm ALWAYS
> suspicious of those with underlying motives, especially (as in Whitney's
> quote) when they have things to sell and resort to trying to further their
> agenda by becoming their own brand of "morality police" by belittling others
> and applying double standards to "science" and debate.
> 
> Heidi
> 
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Bette Lamore
Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of TLA Halynov
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I've learned that life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer it
gets to the end, the faster it goes. Smell the roses!