Re: FW: [PNER] FW: pull w/o exam?

["Sandy Bolinger" <bolinger@bigsky.net>]

Maybe she does need to get a different horse....regardless of whether or not
the horse was lame---because of his different way of going, this question is
going to come up time and time again...RT Muffin had a club foot and along
with it a abnormal gait...if you didn't know the horse, you would swear he
was slightly off.  He got pulled at the FINISH of the race of champions one
year(after finishing first)...what the vet saw was a lame horse...people who
new Muffin, said he trotted out just like he always did..The point
is---Darla was taking a chance every time she entered Muffin in a race of
getting pulled by a vet who didn't know the horse...and she chose to take
the chance....Not the vets fault...they call what they see.  As for
exhaustion...although a check would have probably been a nice
formality...it's important that a vet have the guts to pull horses who they
perceive as exhausted even if the horses meets parameters...an example is
another ROC where a horse who was running with the leader kept passing all
the parameters but was obviously exhausted...the vets kept suggesting to the
horse's rider that he stay at the holds longer to let the horse eat and rest
and that he slow down...none of which he did and he kept on...the horse had
a big-time crash at the last vet check...

----- Original Message -----
From: jo & jim <fltofan@molalla.net>
To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 12:22 AM
Subject: RC: FW: [PNER] FW: pull w/o exam?


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> ----------
> >From: "jo & jim" <fltofan@molalla.net>
> >To: PNER@egroups.com
> >Subject: [PNER] FW: pull w/o exam?
> >Date: Sat, Sep 30, 2000, 11:17 PM
> >
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> >
> >
> > ----------
> >>From: Robbi Pruitt <canyonsd@bendnet.com>
> >>To: "'Jo Calver'" <fltofan@molalla.net>
> >>Subject: FW: pull w/o exam?
> >>Date: Sat, Sep 30, 2000, 11:20 PM
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> From:  Robbi Pruitt[SMTP:canyonsd@bendnet.com]
> >> Sent:  Saturday, September 30, 2000 11:18 PM
> >> To:  'suesblues@hotmail.com'
> >> Cc:  'pner@egroups.com'
> >> Subject:  pull w/o exam?
> >>
> >> Hi Sue,
> >>
> >> First I'd like to thank you for the opportunity to publicly respond to
your
> >> letter to the PNER list. There are always two sides to a story and
usually
> >> there is a chance of learning something from hearing both sides.
> >>
> >> Although Dr. Nicholson hardly needs me to stick up for him, perhaps you
are
> >> not aware of what his qualifications are for judging your daughters
horse
> >> "not fit to continue".
> >>
> >> As a rider, Dr. Nicholson earned his first Tevis buckle in 1963 and
went on
> >> to earn a total of 13 of them. He has ridden over 6800 miles of AERC
> >> competition and has many thousands more of NATRC competition as well.
I'm
> >> pretty sure that I have heard that he has won the NATRC Presidents Cup,
> >> which would be the equivalent of an AERC National Championship. Dr
> >> Nicholson vetted the Great American Horse Race in 1976 and the 1979
Pony
> >> Express race also. His record as both a ride manager and as a
veterinarian
> >> are the best there are. In 1997 Dr. Nicholson was inducted into AERC's
Hall
> >> Of Fame.
> >>
> >> As the RM this past weekend at the Oregon 100 ride, I was told that you
had
> >> been advised to pull Raven at the 50 mile VC due to fatigue and
lameness.
> >> By your own admission, you consulted with your 10 year old daughter and
> >> decided that you knew better than Dr. Nicholson and Dr. Eaton. Against
> >> their advice you made the decision to continue. After you left the 67
mile
> >> vet check I received a call on my cell phone from Dr. Sears at the out
> >> check. He said that Raven was both very lame and exhausted and that
under
> >> no circumstances was Raven to continue beyond the 75 mile point. Dr.
Sears
> >> said that he had only passed him through his check because he felt that
it
> >> would have been worse for Raven to stand in the cold waiting for a
trailer
> >> than to walk the last 7 miles into camp. All three veterinarians were
in
> >> complete agreement with the decision to pull Raven at the 75 mile
point.
> >>
> >> I'd like to take this opportunity also  to clear up some confusion
> >> concerning just what a "ride vets" job is. A ride veterinarian is a
> >> professional, hired by the RM, to judge the horses "fitness to
continue". A
> >> horse that is lame at the walk is NOT "fit to continue"! Neither a
> >> stethoscope nor an exam is necessary to make that judgement. It is the
ride
> >> vets responsibility to remove a horse from competition BEFORE the
animal
> >> needs treatment...not after.
> >>
> >> Being "goal oriented and ambitious" are reasons to be proud in many
> >> circumstances, but in endurance riding those can be dangerous words.
The
> >> horse must always come first in this sport of ours and I've yet to meet
the
> >> horse that gives a damn about his PNER standing.
> >>
> >> Robbi
> >>
> >>
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