Re: RC: Re: Re:Tevis

[DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>]

How many riders from California *started* the ride versus riders from other 
states or countries....AND how many out of state/country riders started the 
ride on California horses?  (hint:  most of the entries are from CA...it's 
only logical that the majority of the finishers would be from there)

I don't think many people who are talking about having qualifying rides 
have any idea how much experience most of the people entering the Tevis DO 
have.

If you add up all of the miles of the non finishers and then divide it out, 
they have on average--- 1900 miles.  (there are a bunch without a lot of 
miles but you've got one horse who has done Tevis 6 times and barely shows 
in the AERC database because it is a NATRC horse--there is a lot more to 
this than saying riders who don't show up in the AERC database or yearbook 
need more experience!)

I think that there *is* a correlation in the experience level of the 
*horses*.  I've got it all input into Exel now.  It's very 
interesting.   You can make a qualifying ride, but unless you require 
riders and horses to have more than 500 miles.....it probably wouldn't make 
any difference.  You wouldn't change the rate of completion, you'd simply 
limit the # of entries.   38 horses completed that entered the ride with 
less than 500 miles. (it could be more because there are 13 unknown horses 
I'm not counting!).  That is 30% of the finishers!!!! Some horses entered 
the ride having done only one or two one day 100's with 100% 
completion.  Did you guys know that more people with 100% completion rates 
(horse AND rider) were pulled than horses and riders with 100% completion 
rates COMPLETED the ride?

Does anybody have any idea how many of the non-finishing horses have 
previously done 100's, including the Tevis, Old Dominion, FEI rides, 
etc...and didn't complete this year?  (I do!)

Karen


At 05:25 PM 07/24/2000 -0700, John Bass wrote:
>By the way 72 riders from California finished the ride vs. 45 from out
>of state.
>Carol,
>How many riders from California were pulled vs. out of state riders?
>John
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>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:16 PM
>Subject: RC: Re:Tevis
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> > Carol kamikazearabs@hotmail.com
> > Dreamweaver obviously does not agree with me. However you
> >  must admit that Tevis is not a ride for amatuers! Sure
> > some novices with no experience will make it through, if
> > they have a good horse and a good crew. But don't you
> > think there would be a higher completion rate overall if
> > these riders and horses have already proven they can successfully complete
>a long distance ride. Don't you think
> > it takes a little experience to know when your horse is nearing
> > its' limit?And if you look at the top ten finishers, these are not
>novices, mostof them are people who are experienced endurance riders who
>know this trail and ride it all the time.
> > It is no accident that they finished where they did. Sure other
>experienced riders did not finish due to some bad luck ,one misstep and a
>horse can pull a muscle. But overall you must admit it would be better for
>the riders to have some kind
> > of experience before attempting this ride. By the way 72
> > riders from California finished the ride vs. 45 from out
> > of state. I have actually heard a person say "Oh, I was
> > out riding my horse and some guy who was an endurance rider
> > said my horse would make a great endurance horse."This
> > person subsequently entered her 5 yr. Arabian in the Tevis!
> > With no endurance knowledge whatsoever,about electrolytes, conditioning,
>or what the trail was like! Luckily she
> >  backed out before the ride start when she realized she
> > was in over her head. At least a qualifying ride would
> > prevent something like that from happening.
> >
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