Re: Russian Arabs

["Cheryl Newbanks" <horsetrails@cybertrails.com>]

Yeah this horse I am looking at is out of a Muscat Grandson.  All this
stud's babies are very small looking when born, but he matured to 15.1h.
He's in his second crop right now so can't tell how big they'll eventually
get.  Plus the 2 yr. old that I am looking at for the trade had a tough
first year, the woman that owned the mare didn't take good care of them and
so the stud's owner bought them from her when the colt was 1, or something
like that.  So I'd say he was starved in his first year, and then not that
well fed in his second year either.  He is a body score of 4.5 right now, I
like to see at least a 5-6 in a growing horse.  He isn't tall, but his legs
are HUGE, he may be 13.3h right now and he just turned 2, but he is all
legs, I am going to measure for height and weight tonight.  My vet knows the
horse and doesn't think he'll reach full potential.  I think he's young
enough that if I get him now I may make a difference where he'll actually
reach his potential.  What do you all think?

Cheryl

----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy Mayeda <kathy_mayeda@atce.com>
To: Bette Lamore <woa@stormnet.com>; Cheryl Newbanks
<horsetrails@cybertrails.com>
Cc: Ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: Russian Arabs


> My horse Beau is only 1/4 Russian but he did grow an inch and changed his
> shape considerably last year as an 8-yo.He has Polish and the dam side and
> the other 1/4 is Crabbett, so who knows?  I know that they say that Muscat
> babies specifically mature slower.  I believe that, too because my mare
> (Beau's 1/2 sister by the Russian/Crabbet sire) was just ordinary looking
at
> 5-yo, but as a 6 and 7 year old, her face "dried up" and she became
> extraordinarily beautiful compared to her gangly 4-yo body.
>
> Kathy Mayeda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bette Lamore [mailto:woa@stormnet.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:00 PM
> To: Cheryl Newbanks
> Cc: Ridecamp
> Subject: RC:   Russian Arabs
>
> Yes, Cheryl
> It is VERY true! I look at my Russian breds as anywhere between 1-2
> years younger than they actually are until they reach 7. My friend,
> well-known Los Alamitos (now in FLA) trainer and breeder of Russians
> stopped nominating her offspring for Drinkers of the Wind and Daughters
> of the Desert (3 year old futurities---BIG MONEY) because they were not
> mature enough to run by three.
> I sold Halyva Guy to Red Shield Equestrian 2 years ago; Hal was 5 years
> old and an honest 15hh. Frank called me a few weeks ago and reported
> that he is now 15.2 at 7 years old and Frank said he swears he is still
> growing. I'll have to check back in a year.
> Russians are not the only ones to mature late. Sheila Varian told me
> that hers also mature quite late---achieving much growth between 5 and
> 7.
> Good things are worth waiting for!<BG>
> Bette
> Bette Lamore
> Whispering Oaks Arabians, Home of TLA Halynov
> http://www.arabiansporthorse.com
> I've learned that life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer it
> gets to the end, the faster it goes. Smell the roses!
>
>
> Cheryl Newbanks wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was wondering if it's true that the Russian bred Arabs mature later
then
> > the other breeds such as Polish and Egyptian or just mis-information?
My
> > friend breeds Russian lines and her babies are very small compared to
> > others.  She said her stud was like that and never reached his full
15.1h
> > until he was 7.  She said that it seemed like he'd never grow. The foals
> are
> > very very small when born too.  Makes no sense to me since the stud and
> > mares are good sizes.  She has a 2 year old that is only 13.2-13.3
hands,
> > he's all legs.  His legs look like a much bigger horse's in length and
> bone
> > size (bigger and longer then my 14.2h two year old's) ,plus he has
approx
> > size ONE feet, but his body doesn't match those long legs and feet.  The
> > only thing I have to compare to is my 2 year old polish filly who is
> pretty
> > much growing in porportion to her body size.
> >
> >                                     Cheryl Newbanks
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