Backyard stallions

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CMNewell reshan@deyr.ultranet.com
>This really disturbed me.. Please , does anyone feel the way I do about this kind of breeding. It bothers me that these people are
advertising there horse as a stud when he is not stallion quality,


What constitutes "stallion quality" is a matter of opinion in 
many cases. I certainly wouldn't make any judgements one way or
 the other based on the website's lousy photos.


 >then  at the same time saying that $50 of th e   booking fee goes to
>rescue horses in need! 

Which is probably $50 more than most of the heavily promoted big
bucks stallions out there.




   . Shouldn't we be trying to help the horses that need our help instead of adding to the problem. 
   They are nice looking horses, but NOT at all stud quality. There confirmations is far from appealing and their lineage is not very
spectacular either. Just because he is a sweet horse does not mean you should go and breed him. He would make a very suitable
gelding, why they are breeding him is beyond me. 


Really? I booked two mares to my stallion last week. The reason
 the mare owners chose him was that not only does he have decent 
conformation and throw lovely foals--the main thing these people
were looking for in a stallion was temperament. They plan on raising 
the folas as family riding horses.

> We should be saving horses, not breeding crap to add to the 
problem. 

One man's trash ...


 > I am sorry if this seems harsh but you got me on a very sour 
>subject here. 

Apparently.

>    . Or that standerdbreds and paints are two completely different breeding type.


Could be a nice cross. Or not. Their choice to make, though, eh?

>it is very unfortanitite that we have people like them breeding
 as they are, and still at the same time claiming they are 
rescuing horses. 

I saw only a claim that they donate to someone else who rescues.


 >   The person say that the $50 dollar booking fee goes to the 
>rescue horses HAHA that sets my nerves on end.


One more time. They likely donate more than some of the big 
name well-respected breeders do. 

 >We should ONLY be breeding top quality mares to top quality 
>studs. And that's it.

I bet your definition and mine aren't the same.
Isn't it nice we live in a country whare we are able to make
our own decisions on that matter and breed what pleases us?

>Do you see  how many
>horses go to the slaughter every year.

Many that come from so called "top quality" stock.

>. Why, because people breed the wrong thing and they RUIN
what was a wonderful breed. 

Opinions on what constitutes "the wrong thing" differ. Fad breeding
annoys hell out of me, but I know enough to know I ain't going
to stop it. My little "backyard  stallion" is correct,
 straight Davenport, kind, willing, and has absolutely no 
show record to speak of, nor does he have anywhere *near* the 
effect on the gene pool that some highly promoted won at Scottsdale 
and the Buckeye creature does.


 > We look for outstanding Pedigree, incredible disposition, floating and free movement, stunning beauty, flawless conformation,
history, Showing record, foaling crop to suitable mares, and so much more.And most of all  that your mare would fit well with the
stud. And people spend the time to advertise their stud the right way, and take quality photos when there horse looks the best and not a
pasture picture of a stained dirty shaggy little shetland pony looking Pinto. 


So, they didn't hire Scott Trees and a hair stylist. BFD.
I don't think you can say with any authority at all that this horse is 
or isn't  stallion material. Not from the information provided.
And show records don't mean a lot to some of us.
The finest Arabians I know (IMO) are owned by a couple of folks who 
don't show them. I bought my stallion from them, and I just signed 
a contract on a filly.
  
    
 > Please tell me I am not alone in this.. 

Oh, I'm sure yu're not alone. But I'm not anywhere near you.

         --CMNewell