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This is something I feel very strongly about. Please bear with me, this has taken some time to think out coherently,esp at 12am! This is a situation that cannot be looked upon as good in any way. First, as you mention, the facts are not facts (depends on vet and area, etc), and it does nothing positive to mention names. I have heard reasons from "that way we can blacklist people" to "see she doesn't know how to rate her horse"...for reasons to list names. NO POSITIVE reasons at all. Basically it's none of anyone's business if you want to pull! I can see SOME value in posting NUMBERS (though those aren't realistic either..but better). Some thoughts... If you post names...here are some problems.... 1. "Sally-Jo" has a great endurance horse for sale. She decides "he just isn't right" after stepping on a stone, and pulls, telling the vet she thinks he's a little off. She's being honest and considerate of her horse..doing everything right. But BAM! This horse is forever blacklisted in AERC records as being PULLED FOR LAMENESS. There goes a lot of sales opportunity. 2. "Sally-Jo" has a great endurance horse for sale. The horse is slightly off. He stepped on a rock. She decides to pull him. She is considerate of her horse, but she LIES to the mgmt. says she's sick...doesn't want a PULLED FOR LAMENESS on this horse's records. 3. "Sally-Jo" has a great endurance horse for sale. This horse is slightly off from stepping on a rock. She considers pulling. No, she sure doesn't want THAT listed next to his name...you know, PULLED FOR LAMENESS. So, against her better judgment, she finishes the ride, the horse passes the completion check, but in pain, and now so sore he must have a month off from a stone bruise. If you don't think this will happen, I personally know of two cases where an owner pulled (one was "not quite right" the other wasn't going to finish in time..wanted to take a potential slow) and both show LAMENESS all over their record though that is NOT the reason the riders pulled. Whatever statistics AERC was trying to get become very unrealistic..so what IS the point?? THERE IS NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE TO BE GAINED FROM LISTING NAMES!!! 1. LYING 2. RIDING ON WHEN YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD QUIT 3. HURTING THE HORSE IN THE LONGRUN Now for the management headaches. Do I list "Sally-Jo" as RO or L? I didn't see her horse, I didn't talk to her. All I have is a vet card that says rider pulled...lame. I can see the day when riders call me months later furious they have METABOLIC or LAMENESS on their horses' records, when the vet did not PULL them, the CHOSE to pull (however you want to interpret that). As a ride manager of two rides, and also on the AERC ride management committee, I am very much opposed to listing names (I don't care if they list numbers...without names they would be much more valid). I am considering protesting this by listing all of my rider pulls as RIDER OPTION...I feel this strongly about encouraging the three negatives listed above. Louise Burton Firedance Farms Endurance Arabians Oklahoma http://pages.prodigy.net/firedancefarms
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