Re: Gas or Oil out, What is the problem????

[Lynette Helgeson <helgeson@lansford.ndak.net>]

GESA BRINKS wrote:
> 
> Good grief,  I never called you a liar nor did I intend it to sound that
> way.  Geeze! I realize that Calif.  has different wage scales than the rest
> of the U.S. and I can only go by what I know to be happening in CA.  The
> people I know are doing quite well.  Yes, you are right, I have been living
> away from the oil fields for about 12 years now and I am sure that things
> are different now.  However, when I go back and visit, everything looks even
> better than when I left.  As far as I know, Im still entitled to an opinion,
> and I made it.  Dont take it so personally.    gesa
  
I would reread your letter then. This
statement, "I have a hard time trying to
swallow the part about the lowly oil field
hand." sounds to me like you are saying
that I was not being honest about the
conditions of the oil field workers and
their families, esp. after stating how oil
field workers had more then one house,
lots of cars and fancy toys. 

All I can say to you is, "Don't judge a
man until you have walked a mile in his
shoes." And that goes for the people who
live in your area too. 

Lynette
> 
> >> fancy toys.  
> >
> >When was that? Back in the 70's and 80's?
> >Then the oil field workers were paid well.
> >But they have taken pay cuts and been laid
> >off since then. Most of them have lost
> >everything they had. At least around here,
> >which is a lot of people. Since you are
> >calling me a liar, I will tell you that my
> >husband runs a workover rig, he has a crew
> >of three men working under him. He is not
> >only responsible for everything that goes
> >wrong on the rig or the job, but he is
> >directly responsible for the lives and
> >welfare of the men working under him,
> >since he controls the speed of the rig.
> >For this job and great responsibility, he
> >is paid $11.60 per hour. The men working
> >under him are paid considerable less. Most
> >telemarketers around here make more money
> >then him. We have a house that is over 60
> >years old and the roof leaks so bad the
> >ceiling is starting to fall down on us. We
> >can't afford to get it fix. Maybe this
> >next summer, with the higher oil prices
> >and hopefully more work, we will be able
> >to do that. My car that I use to get to
> >work is over 10 yrs old and is in
> >desperate need of repair. Thankfully my
> >husband gets to drive a company pickup,
> >since he has to drive close to 100 miles a
> >day to get to work, when they do work. I
> >drive 80 miles to get to work.
> >
> >Believe me, I am not complaining. I am
> >very blessed in many other ways besides
> >money, but I do not think that you are in
> >the position to make judgments as to how
> >the families of the oil field workers are
> >living in ND!!!!
> >
> >Lynette
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lynette Helgeson <helgeson@lansford.ndak.net>
> >> To: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> >> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:24 AM
> >> Subject: RC: Re: Gas or Oil out, What is the problem????
> >>
> >> >Someone posts this forwarded message on
> >> >ridecamp,
> >> >underneath is my reply and I hope that
> >> >everyone
> >> >reads and begins to understand why this is
> >> >not
> >> >a good thing to have posted.
> >> >
> >> >> This message was received and forwarded - please
> >> >> forward it!
> >> >> Anytime we can stick it to them it's a good day.
> >> >
> >> >>  Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged
> >> >> across Canada
> >> >> and the U.S. to bring the price of gas down, and
> >> >> it worked. It's time to
> >> >> do something about it again.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just who do you think that you are
> >> > STICKING IT TO???? Nameless, faceless men
> >> >sitting in big
> >> > offices with lots of money????
> >> >
> >> >If the price of oil drops way down it is
> >> >not the head of the
> >> >oil companies that are going to feel the
> >> >pinch. They might
> >> >just have to take a couple less vacations
> >> >that year, or
> >> >maybe not buy that new yacht. It is the
> >> >guys on the bottom
> >> >who are doing all of the hard work that
> >> >are laid off and
> >> >given wage cuts. If you do a gas out to
> >> >drop the the price
> >> >of oil, it is my family and others like us
> >> >who you are going
> >> >to be sticking it to!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > There are a lot of us very poor people
> >> >who
> >> > are very relieved
> >> > and happy to see the prices of oil
> >> >finally
> >> > coming up. We have
> >> > not seen good prices since the 80's and
> >> >it
> >> > is about time we
> >> > have some good prices.
> >> >
> >> > The majority of the people in the oil
> >> > industry are the ones
> >> > on the bottom. The drillers, the oil
> >> > workers, the guys working
> >> > at very hard, dirty and DANGEROUS jobs in
> >> > order to bring up
> >> > and process the oil so that you may have
> >> > the comfort of low
> >> > gas prices and many other things.
> >> >
> >> > IT IS ABOUT TIME that these guys who have
> >> > worked so hard on
> >> > low pay, get something out of it. Not
> >> >only
> >> > does the higher oil
> >> > prices help a lot of families, but the
> >> > schools in rural ND get
> >> > a lot of tax revenue from the oil field,
> >> > the higher prices
> >> > encourage drilling which is good for the
> >> > economy. Puts a lot
> >> > of out-of-work men, back to work.
> >> >
> >> > PLUS, compared to the rest of the world,
> >> > the US pays some pretty
> >> > low prices for gas. So quit your
> >> > bellyaching and be happy for the
> >> > ones that so desperately need the money
> >> > that the higher prices will
> >> > bring.
> >> >
> >> > I for one am going to buy as much gas as
> >> >I
> >> > can on April 7-9. We
> >> > have a bigger gas tank sitting empty,
> >> > because we could not afford
> >> > to fill it. But now I am going to fill it
> >> > on those days and
> >> > encourage everyone I can to buy gas.
> >> >
> >> >So please forward this message on to as
> >> >many
> >> >people as you can!!!!!! Help save an
> >> >endangered
> >> >species, the oil field workers!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lynette in ND
> >> > where the two main industries are oil and
> >> > farming and where there
> >> > are A LOT of families who are very happy
> >> > to finally see some
> >> > good prices for oil, which means work.
> >> >
> >> > > > > Subject: Oil out
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > This message was received and
> >> >forwarded - please
> >> > > > forward it!
> >> > > > > Anytime we can stick it to them
> >> >it's a good day.
> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >  Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged
> >> >> > > across Canada
> >> >> > > > and the U.S. to bring the price of gas down, and
> >> >> > > it worked. It's time to
> >> >> > > > do something about it again.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > This time, lets make it for three days instead of
> >> >> > > just one. The oil
> >> >> > > > cartel decided to slow production to drive up
> >> >> > > gasoline prices.
> >> >> > > > Lets see how many Canadian/American people we can
> >> >> > > get to ban together
> >> >> > > > for a three day period in April, NOT TO BUY ANY
> >> >> > > GASOLINE, during those
> >> >> > > > three days.
> >> >> > > > LETS HAVE A GAS OUT.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Do not buy any gasoline from APRIL 7, 2000,
> >> >> > > THROUGH APRIL 9, 2000.
> >> >> > > > Buy what you need before the dates listed above,
> >> >> > > or after, but try
> >> >> > > > not to buy any during the GAS OUT. If you want to
> >> >> > > help, just send this
> >> >> > > > to everyone you know and ask them to do the same.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > We brought the prices down once before, and we can
> >> >> > > do it again!
> >> >> > > > Come on North America lets stand together.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > WE CAN MAKE A
> >> >> > > DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Even if you receive this 100 times keep passing it
> >> >> > > around, this way
> >> >> > > > you know everyone is being informed and no one
> >> >> > > will forget!!!!!!!!
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > =====
> >> >> > She
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >   ------------------------------------------
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject: RC: Jose Dantes' Requiem
> >> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 22:49:08 EST
> >> >> > From: DVeritas@aol.com
> >> >> > To: tomsitesgoearth@shentel.net
> >> >> > CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tramps, both of yous.
> >> >> > Congratulations on heeding his call and staying to 175.
> >> >> > I wish all "horsepeople" could find their Jose Dante and allow them
> >> safe
> >> >> > haven while they recover from "civilization" together.
> >> >> > Bless the both of yous.
> >> >> > Frank.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject: RC: 20 Mule Team ride photos
> >> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:46:26 -0800
> >> >> > From: Karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>
> >> >> > To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> >> >> >
> >> >> > if you rode the 60 or 100 at 20MT and have not received your proofs
> >> check
> >> >> > the web site
> >> >> >         http://www.familyphoto.cjb.net
> >> >> > as there are some proofs that i could not identify the rider and
> also a
> >> >> > page of "returned to sender" that were incorrect addresses.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Karen Clanin
> >> >> > kclanin@fix.net
> >> >> > http:www.bigfoot.com/~kclanin
> >> >> > http://www.geocities.com/darlingbud_99/winner.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >   ------------------------------------------
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject: RC: saying 'thanks' to SI for the article
> >> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:43:43 -0800
> >> >> > From: Karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>
> >> >> > To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> >> >> >
> >> >> > anyone that would like to take a moment to thank the author of the
> SI
> >> >> > article can do so by writing:   <Amanda_Bower@timeinc.com>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > considering that many have voiced wanting to see more publicity for
> >> >> > endurance riding it helps to let the magazine know their effort was
> >> >> > appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Karen Clanin
> >> >> > kclanin@fix.net
> >> >> > http:www.bigfoot.com/~kclanin
> >> >> > http://www.geocities.com/darlingbud_99/winner.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject: RC: America, the beautiful
> >> >> > Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:08:13 -0800
> >> >> > From: "superpat" <superpat@gateway.net>
> >> >> > To: <MBlanchrd@aol.com>, <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Finally...(and it amazes me, but I am sure to recieve flames for
> >> this...)
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > > will learn what an enormous blessing from God it is that you are
> an
> >> >> > American.
> >> >> > > It may sound scmaltzy, and, as I said, there's a few people out
> there
> >> who
> >> >> > > will privately flame me for saying this but..... America is the
> >> greatest
> >> >> > > country on earth.
> >> >> > > Try it, Renee, and if you have more questions, let me know.
> >> >> > > Michelle
> >> >> > > MBlanchrd@aol.com
> >> >> > > Oly, WA
> >> >> > You get no argument here. I am reminded almost every day how
> fortunate
> >> I am
> >> >> > to live in a country where I can think and speak my own words and
> >> thoughts
> >> >> > without fear. I was riding in the mountains today and my friend and
> I
> >> were
> >> >> > commenting on what a diverse and beautiful country America is. That
> we
> >> can
> >> >> > immerse ourselves in our passion (horses for those who haven't
> guessed
> >> as
> >> >> > much) without being rich or beholden to anyone. Several years ago, I
> >> went on
> >> >> > a trek in Nepal and hiked to the base of Mt. Everest. I saw
> spectacular
> >> >> > mountains and scenery and met some of the most gentle and beautiful
> >> people
> >> >> > on earth. When I stepped off of the plane in Seattle one month
> later, I
> >> >> > wanted to kiss the ground. Nope, you get no arguments here.
> >> >> > Pat Super
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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