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I stand corrected on the foals. Foals do not get the manna. weanlings at
the age of 6 months going into winter do. That is why the 16 month
thing..... Pelleted Calf Manna is labeled for horses. (Will check to make
sure what I use is STILL marked for horses, you have my curiosity
going.......)
Calf Manna is a brand not a type...........
You are correct, any time you are feeding a supplement it should compliment
every thing else you are feeding. That even takes in what your soil is
lacking , or has to much of...... water, in addition to the hay/alfalfa/
grains etc......
In the old days. It was a talent to be able to look at your horse, stand
back and say..... the horse needs a little more of this. (not to
scientific) But you really got to be able to read the health and
performance of your horse in relation to what it was eating, and learn what
your horse may need. (not to scientific)
And granted some times you learned the hard way and made mistakes even when
the package says perfectly balanced for horses. The people I find having
the most problems are the ones balancing every thing and ASSUMING it has
to be working.
Calf manna is a tool. If you know how and when to use it (LIKE EVERY THING
ELSE).......WOW...........
(I am being critical here. Saying to me, it is only meant for a calf,
doesn't make it.)
Half the drugs used for sheep and horses aren't labeled for such. I would
have many dead animals over the years if my vet and I stood by that
attitude.........)
Here is Your chance to educate me: ( I'm NOT a nutritionalist(sp)) This is
not a flame nor do I want to change your mind about calf manna.
Please tell me what major problems you have run into with this product?
How was it used?
How much was used?
How do you know it was this product causing the problem?
Was enough water supplied?
If a horse was dehydrated. I could see a problem.
If a horse was getting to much protein and other supplements yes, you may
have a problem. (as with any thing)
What was the out come?
Would like to hear the specifics. Especially if suggesting some one try
it.......... You are the first person I have ever run into with something
neg. about this product............. Don't know what type of horses you
have. Could it be the diff. between Arabs and Stock Horses/1/4 type (just
a thought)
I would not feed my Icelandic this product (forgot about him) there is my
exception......
When people have stated they have tried every thing including omalene etc.
and it has not done a thing for their horses and the end of the line has
been reached. I ALWAYS suggest Calf Manna. Have not had any one state
they have had any thing other that weight gain, better condition
etc........My be it is the area in which we live?
Once the condition is reached the horse is pulled off. What has been
unique is, the condition remains and does not go away after the manna is
discontinued.. I use it to build, not maintain.... May be the difference
is, the way we use manna, and why it has been so successful.........so far
Calf manna is a wonderful product.
Don't think I said any thing about conditioning an endurance horse with the
product for competition........ or feeding it for the life of a horse.
I would enjoy your input on this subject since our experiences are so polar.
Like to share something with you: We were the ones that lost out on the
100 round bails to keep us going this year. due to flooding etc. and a deal
gone bad. All my tools have changed.
Susan has come to my rescue and formulate a feed for us. VERY balanced. I
am scared to death. Having never used a calculated, on paper,
diet.........(fish out of water here) My calf manna is on hold for a
year......
My tools for one hell of a conditioned horse so far has been the following:
Horse
Good hay
Good Alfalfa- knowing when needed
Pasture (winter and summer grazing)
Grain- knowing when needed
Calf Manna- knowing when needed
di/cal- knowing when needed
Licks (rarely) used this summer
Salt always
Mineral block, (do not provide when feeding manna)
Probiotics- knowing when needed
The addition of alfalfa and electrolytes when working hard (so far I have
a good track record, must be doing something right (no tie ups, no colic
etc ) If endurance riding gets any more complicated than this, may change
my dirrection........and may be I should.....
As one person said "If it ain't broke don't fix it" Nothing has broke
using Calf Manna yet. Not to say it won't...
Now I am going to a calculated to the tea feeding program. NOT out of choice.
Now tec., it should be perfect (on paper), but I would be a fool to assume
this, and quit watching my horses carefully. Assuming has gotten me into
more trouble than trial and error.
Thanks
Sigrid
The Space Cadet
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>As the name implies Calf Manna is for Calves, not horses. It is not
>balanced for horses, and certainly not for foals. Yes we have used
>it in the past. Some people have had no problems. Others have major
>problems and don't know why. Calf Manna is very high in calcium and
>low in phosp. Balance is way off for foals.
>
>If you are feeding foals, pick a formula for foals - Carnation makes one,
>Omalene 100, so does Purena, Equine Jr. These feeds are made for horses
>not cows.
>
>For feeding the endurance horse, if you want a complete feed or grain,
>pick one for the performance horse - not one for a calf.
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>Wendy
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