derby ditch riders

[Nikki Reynolds <jakar@phonewave.net>]

I live 25 miles from Fernley and had to deliver mail in one of the worst 
daytime snowstorms I've ever seen around here yesterday.  We had 40 mph 
gusts blowing snow into every pore!  A customer on my route said she'd seen 
those "crazy people" out there riding when as she crawled into work.  I 
haven't heard from a single one of them yet :-O
Nikki the wimp
-snow hater in the NV desert

Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:07:33 -0800
From: Kirsten Foruria <kirsten@vermilion.reno.nv.us>

He, he..... well, the Derby Ditchers are having a *real* fun time I'm
sure. I got up this morning to blizzard conditions and my good friend in
Dayton says it's about the same down there.  I had to go scrape snow and
ice off two poor critters, blanket them and stick them in the barn (this
was NOT predicted... so they were outside, no shelter).  Fortunately or
unfortunately, the really nasty stuff didn't start here until around
7:30 or 8:00 am.... so riders would have been on the trail already by
the time the snow started.  I hope everybody's ok.  It's slacked off at
the moment, but still pretty ugly. I hearby request stories from anyone
who went!

--
Kirsten (Price) Foruria
Vermilion Desert Ranch
Reno, Nevada



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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:15:06 -0800
From: Linda Cowles <linda_cowles@mentorg.com>
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Subject: RC:    derby ditch riders
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Ohhh - these folks have my sympathy! At last years Gold Country ride, it
was suppose to be nice weather - warm, even, and it started raining
***COLD*** rain shortly after the start of the ride... I was dressed for
dry, sunny 60's and if it hit the 50's, it wasn't on my part of the
trail!

I want to hear the stories too!

Gold Country volunteers all rallied to support wet wet horses and riders
- there were horse blankets at all stops and at lunch they set out horse
mash, hay, BROWNIES and COOKIES (!! - am a chocohollic), and poured hot
coffee, cocoa and cappuccino nonstop... We were all extremely impressed
- and grateful!

  Linda Cowles
  Lion Oaks Ranch
  Gilroy CA

Kirsten Foruria wrote:
>
> He, he..... well, the Derby Ditchers are having a *real* fun time I'm
> sure. I got up this morning to blizzard conditions and my good friend in
> Dayton says it's about the same down there.  I had to go scrape snow and
> ice off two poor critters, blanket them and stick them in the barn (this
> was NOT predicted... so they were outside, no shelter).  Fortunately or
> unfortunately, the really nasty stuff didn't start here until around
> 7:30 or 8:00 am.... so riders would have been on the trail already by
> the time the snow started.  I hope everybody's ok.  It's slacked off at
> the moment, but still pretty ugly. I hearby request stories from anyone
> who went!
>
> --
> Kirsten (Price) Foruria
> Vermilion Desert Ranch
> Reno, Nevada
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:14:39 EST
From: DAldr94141@aol.com
To: rides2far@juno.com
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Subject: RC:   Bareback effects/horse&rider
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Ok, so what are you saying Angie, that us women have more fat on our butts
that won't sore a horses back? Just kidding.


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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:23:54 -0800
From: Kirsten Foruria <kirsten@vermilion.reno.nv.us>
To: CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com
CC: Teddy@runningbear.com, ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: RC:         Efficient gaits question
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Ok, but how much is "aptitude", how much is cardio-vascular fitness and how 
much
is mucsle fitness?  If the horse isn't conditioned at a particular gait 
(e.g.
canter), those muscles are not going to be developed as well as the "trot
muscles", so I would expect an increase in heartrate. If I had to guess, 
I'd say
aptitude is pretty closely linked to muscle fitness... kind of a chicken 
and egg
thing.

I am glad to see this discussion as my older gelding is a "loper" it's his
preferred gait (which is kind of funny as Morgans are known as a trotting 
breed).
He's getting better at the trot and we've been doing a lot of trotting 
work, but
I will be more concientious about working at the lope as well.  My young 
stallion
also has a very fluid canter.  Overall, he just has smoother, more 
efficient
gaits that my older guy period. But I'll make sure I condition for both too 
so
he's able to maintain that.

This is interesting, please keep up this thread!

Kirsten

CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/2/99 6:07:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> Teddy@runningbear.com writes:
>
> << Winning 100 mile fit?  I have yet to find a horse that with enough 
work at
> the faster
>  gaits did not lower it's heart rate at that gait...LOWER than the trot. 
>>
>
> Depends a lot on the horse.  I would agree that if the HR at an easy 
canter
> is higher than at an extended trot, it is an area that needs more work, 
but
> to some with a great aptitude to trot and very little aptitude to canter, 
you
> may never achieve the lower HR at that gait.
>
> Heidi

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Kirsten (Price) Foruria
Vermilion Desert Ranch
Reno, Nevada



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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:39:42 PST
From: "Alison Dunn" <alcritters@hotmail.com>
To: Tivers@aol.com, fasterhorses@gilanet.com, ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: RC:  Efficient gaits question
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Wouldn't anxiety be a factor in this case also?  They're worried that
they can't gallop, and are relieved when they find out they can.
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:45:49 EST
From: CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com
To: kirsten@vermilion.reno.nv.us
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In a message dated 4/3/99 1:20:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kirsten@vermilion.reno.nv.us writes:

<<  If I had to guess, I'd say
 aptitude is pretty closely linked to muscle fitness... kind of a chicken 
and
egg
 thing. >>

Which is exactly why you need to work the less preferred gait in training.

Heidi


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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:48:22 EST
From: Sbeseda@aol.com
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Subject: RC:  RE: window of vulnerability
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Angie wrote:
>Kaboot is well aware that there is a "window of
>vulnerability" between when the sponge is thrown
>and when it is retreived, when he can accelerate
>for all he's worth.

I have ridden several horses that take advantage of
that "window of vulnerability" when coming out of a turn.
If we are moving at a steady pace and slow down
a tad to round a turn these horses will use that
moment to try for a faster pace. I have to ask for
control of the pace again after each turn.

Scott


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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:43:41 EST
From: CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com
To: SugaFairy@aol.com, ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: RC:   Fwd: RC:  trailer tying
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In a message dated 4/3/99 12:41:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
SugaFairy@aol.com writes:

<< How do you stop you horse from charging out the back of the trailer when 
you
 stop? I hold the lead rope so he won't turn his head but he backs straight 
 out almost pulling me with him. >>

If you are putting any pressure on his head at all, he may be rushing back
because he is resisting the pressure.  It may be that he has had pressure 
on
his head in the past, and rushing has become a habit.  Make sure he is 
untied
while the door is still closed, and then stand behind the trailer so that 
he
comes out beside you.  Talk calmly, pat him on the rump (from off to the
side), and try to soothe him after he comes out.  It often takes quite 
awhile
to break a horse of this habit.

Heidi


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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:39:16 -0800
From: Alison Farrin <alison@hirschcompany.com>
To: "'ridecamp@endurance.net'" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Subject: RC:  Sliding side reins
Message-ID: <01BE7DDF.EC6D07E0@PM3-1-28-226.ixpres.com>

Also known as Vienna side reins, they run from the girth, between the
horses front legs, thru the bit rings and and back to the girth about
halfway down the horse's side.  They won't hit the horse in the mouth and
if he thows up his head to evade the side reins, they slide and then put
pressure on the bit from the bottom, encouraging the horse to drop his head 
again and round.  You must be driving the horse forward on the lunge to
encourage him to step under with the hind feet.  Then as he gets the idea
that he can drop his head and round his back, he will eventually find that
this is much more comfortable than going around with his head in the air.
 Dover Saddelry carries Vienna Lunge Reins at $32.60 a pair, very
reasonable compared to some other catalogs.  800-989-1500
Don't think they are on the Web yet.
Alison Farrin


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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:15:14 EST
From: OasisArab@aol.com
To: Keeyun@aol.com
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Subject: RC:   white hairs and electrodes
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In a message dated 4/3/99 8:09:42 AM Central Standard Time, Keeyun@aol.com
writes:

<< Has anyone else noticed this with the placement of their
 electrodes?  I hope it is not the saddle.  >>

have not had this problem with our electodes for the past 3 yrs
do not know maybe allergic to conductive gel ?
Bill & Smokey


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