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There's been other reasons for me to pull my horse at rides besides
lameness, metabolics, or rider. One time there was a problem with my
saddle and I discovered a large area the size of my hand on his back that
was raised. The vet and ride management acted mad because I pulled a
"sound" horse 37 miles out. Another time, I had the breast collar too
tight and it pulled the girth so that it made a large girth sore which we
discovered at the 25 mile vet check. I pulled. Another time, my horse
simply seemed to be feeling "off." Vets said he was fine and should go
on. I pulled. Glad I did, he was sick the next day. I want my horse
around for another day / another ride. What would you put in your survey
in these cases? Not trying to give you a bad time, just pointing out
that by so limiting the choices of reasons, you will get faulty data.
Diana Benson
Joplin MO
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:14:47 -0400 (EDT) CMikeT@aol.com writes:
> Tina and RideCamp,
>
>I was involved in creating the form which asks why the horses did not
>complete. This form arose because a group of AERC members were
>sitting
>around asking ourselves how many were pulled and why. We would each
>say, In
>my area, nearly all are pulled because of…" or something like that.
>Pretty
>soon we all realized that our beliefs were based on very limited
>views, not
>at all statistically significant. We set out to gather some real
>data.
>
>On the form we put the three reasons that categorized nearly every
>reason a
>horse would not complete: Lame, Metabolic, or due to rider (injury,
>sickness,
>tired, etc.). Rider option was not to be used as a way of saying that
>the
>rider did not want the horse to continue because it is lame. When
>used like
>that the data is meaningless. When interpreted that way, one year we
>had
>more horses pulled because of rider problems than due to horse
>problems.
>
>I would always encourage you to pull your own horse rather than
>needing the
>ride vet to do so. It would be my desire that every pull would be due
>to
>rider request, but the cause would still be due to lameness, metabolic
>or
>rider problem. If the veterinarian puts down that you were pulled
>because
>your horse is out because he is off, even though you had requested
>that he be
>withdrawn yourself, do not take it wrong. This is what should be
>done.
> While it was done voluntarily by the rider, the true cause needs to
>be
>recorded.
>
>It will not be counted against you. The data is collected without any
>names
>or ID, only the total number of each category is reported. We need to
>really
>know why the horses are not able to finish. That way we can look at
>these
>reasons and try to find out a way to make more horses complete in
>better
>condition.
>
>Thanks for letting me rant and rave about this. I have been trying
>for a
>decade to get this working and I fear some of my frustration leaked
>out onto
>this page. Sorry.
>
>Sincerely,
> Mike
>
>
>C. Mike Tomlinson DVM
>and Benjamin Too
>Yucaipa, CA
>CMikeT@AOL.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ridecamp@endurance.net [SMTP:ridecamp@endurance.net]
>Sent: Monday, June 23, 1997 10:45 PM
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Pulling
>
>From: hickst@puzzler.nichols.com (tina hicks)
>Resent-from: ridecamp@endurance.net
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>what determines whether you are noted as pulling due to Rider Option
>or as
>Lameness/Metabolicl??
>
>Does it just come down to whether the rider says "I pull" before the
>vet can
>say "you are pulled"?
>
>Tina - hoping she doesn't have to do the RO thing again for a long
>time
>hickst@nichols.com
>
>
>
>
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