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> You know what boggled me? Rolfing is something other than throwing up! I
> honestly had visions of these folks treating you by sticking two fingers down
> your throat. Honestly! Thought it was some kind of a Hollywood freakshow. I
> mean, they are "cleansing" freaks out there.
This was too good to pass up!!!! I just love it - no wonder, Tom, that
you have the opinion that some of the holistic/alternative vets and
treatments are -- how did you put it- quacks? wingnuts? I'm so glad that
Jim clarified what rolfing is to you and that you understand it better!
This is a good example of how learning more about a subject (like a
particular alternative treatment) can make a disbeliever (who doesn't
understand what it's all about) to a believer (not that I'm implying you
are now a believer, but perhaps a step closer!). I find this all
somewhat amusing because I live in Iowa (like nowheres-ville as far as
horse gurus), but many years ago when I was taking care of racehorses,
in an attempt to better understand the athletic care and training, I
purchased your book "The Fit Racehorse" and read it. And read everything
else I could find regarding interval training, and applyed things I've
learned to my own horses when conditioning for competitive trail rides.
But now when someone here asks me how I got my horses into shape, they'd
give me a blank look when I'd mention interval training or Tom Ivers.
Now I'm studying and learning all about herbs and acupuncture and
chiropractic, and taking care of my horses with some of these
alternative methods (using a certified veterinarian for the acupuncture
and chiropractic), and again, people are kind of looking at me like I'm
some kind of weird person. I learned and did TTEAM touch years "before
it was cool", as with interval training, and now the alternative
treatments.
These discussions on this listserve are not only entertaining, but I've
learned so much. I agree, Tom, you were born in the wrong time period. I
picked up something you said in your reply about the horse/trainer
problem, that indicated to me that you really genuinely care about
horses. That's what makes you and Susan and all the others that
contribute to this discussion group so valuable. I am one of the many
subscribers that truly appreciates the input from you experts out there.
I'm going to have to unsubscribe for a week or so while I take off for a
much anticipated and eagerly looked forward to adventure. I'll miss
reading the daily posts and will have to catch up when I get back home
next week. My "adventure" is going to be riding the Tevis Fun trail ride
this weekend. I'll be flying out to California Thursday and staying with
a friend out there (this all started with e-mail correspondance). Ever
since I was young and first read about the Tevis Cup, I'd dreamed about
someday riding it. Well, as I get older and wiser, I'm beginning to
think this may never happen, at least not in this lifetime! But, when my
friend invited me to come out this weekend for this pleasure ride and to
ride some of the trails used for the Tevis Cup, it was too good an offer
to refuse. I can't wait! Are any of you other folks on this discussion
group going to be there this weekend? It would be fun to meet some of
you and match faces with e-mail names. Anyway, I'll be signing off
tomorrow night - not because I've lost interest - but because I'm
heading for California.
Ruth
PS - you'll know me if you see me out there - I'll be the one that looks
like the dumb happy tourist with camera wrapped around my neck, oggling
at the beautiful sights!
>
> Now that Jim has explained a few of the basics to me, I can see some genuine
> applications for racehorses. He's got me thinking in a whole new direction,
> even though I'm still not a knee-twisting believer, even with all the
> wondrous testimonials.
>
> Anyway, Susan. Life's short. Let's get into some good stuff--talk about fat:
>
> My racehorse guys tell me that they see a couple of weeks of benefit in
> performance and then the horses lose their edge, then, gradually, a lot of
> their speed. this, in my mind is due to an increasing muscular dependance on
> fat and a storing of lipolytic enzymes in preference over glycolytic enzymes.
> So I'm telling my folks to get off the high fat feeds (anything over 12%).
>
> They tell me that burning fat is also oxygen--expensive compared to carbs and
> produces higher body temps. Is this true?
>
> Finally, assuming that in high speed race horses the glycogen loading process
> is as effective as I'm saying it is. Why would it be more effective than in
> human athletes? And why would creatine loading have no effect at all in
> horses?
>
> ti
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