ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: help for biters
Re: help for biters
Bonnie Snodgrass (snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil)
Wed, 12 Feb 97 11:56:47 EST
     I finally had to respond to this, I couldn't help myself. The gelding 
     I have now is "oral" but isn't a biter so I've dealt with it fairly 
     easily by giving him attention and teaching him what a growl means. 
     He's been very responsive. Now I have had to deal with some bad 
     BITER'S too and learned a good trick from someone years ago that works 
     with most.
     
     A horse needs to learn that biting people just plain hurts and is 
     unpleasant. Ideally he shouldn't be swung at or struck by a person if 
     possible because he will likely just get punchy about swinging arms 
     and still be a biter. Some horses with an agressive streak will  
     actually play a game with you of, I attack you,  you attack me, I 
     attack you back. Buuuut, most horse learn real fast on their own about 
     biting things that hurt. Let a horse hit a cactus or electric fence 
     just once with that sensitive nose/mouth and they have learned a 
     lesson.
     
     So here's what you do. You have to set your horse up. You can use an 
     old metal curry comb if you like or a 16 penny nail (my preference). 
     Work around your horse, maybe grooming the shoulder so you are within 
     biting range. In the hand closest to the horses head hold your 
     prickley item. I hold a large dull pointed nail in my fist with just a 
     1/4" sticking out past my thumb and forefinger. These nails are too 
     dull to poke a hole in your horse and easily controlled. Hold your 
     hand so it is closer to your horse than any other part of your body, 
     very inviting. When he finally goes for it let him firmly run into the 
     nail with his lips or even grab a metal curry comb in his teeth. Ow! 
     They usually only try this a couple of times and you never swung at 
     them. They don't seem to connect that you intentionally did this, only 
     that you aren't good to eat. It all happens very fast so the action is 
     linked in their minds with their own action.
     
     If you are cringing as you read this please remember that horses are 
     very large, physical creatures. They deal with each other every day by 
     physical contacts, threats and postureing. A horse asserts itself in a 
     group with kicks and bites then later can just threaten to kick. At 
     the track I was around some very dangerous biters and came to the 
     conclusion that they became that way from inconsistent, half-hearted  
     handling. 
     
     No this doesn't have anything to do with endurance other than we all 
     want to be able to safely handle our equine buddy's and not have them 
     chewing on the vet's or farriers.
     
     Bonnie Snodgrass
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Subject: help for biters
Author:  ridecamp@endurance.net at smtp
Date:    2/12/97 10:23 AM
An old huxster wagon driver (my father in law) told me this solution for 
biters.  Carry a wire brush, and when the horse goes to bite hit him in the 
nose with the brush.  I used it on a biter but switched to a stiff horse nylon 
brush, and it worked great.   Three times and the horse never wanted to bite 
again
     
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