ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: [endurance] Mule for Endurance Horse

Re: [endurance] Mule for Endurance Horse

Eugenie (oogiem@dsrtweyr.com)
Tue, 2 Jul 96 11:30:12 -0700

>What does
>everything think about a Mule/Arabian cross for an endurance horse. I
>have always wanted a mule and I met a lady this weekend that is starting
>to stand a Mammoth Jack. If I were to cross him with a good Arabian Mare
>(one bred for endurance), what do you think the possibility of getting a
>good endurance mule would be? Aren't mules suppose to be good endurance
>prospects? And we all know Arabs are! <grin> Am just curious what you all
Since we've been breeding that exact cross I'll gladly post my opinions.
If you have no experience with longears, either mules or donkeys, don't
make a part Arab mule your first one. They are smart, quick, fast and
tough. Mules are quick to learn and very sensitive and require careful
firm handling from birth. Add these typical mule traits to the sensitive,
intelligent Arabian and you can get hell on hooves if you don't know what
you are doing. Your first mule should be a nice plug type. Be sure you
really like longears before investing in agood part-Arabian mule.

Second to the breeding, in light of the recent posts about Polish and
Egyptian Arabians I am leery of posting this bu I have to give you what
I use and what has not worked for me. I breed old line CMK Arabians,
primarily Crabbet lines with a lot of the Maynesboro W.R. Brown horses.
They make fine mule mommas. The few times I have crossed half Polish, or
Egyptian bred Arabians with donkeys I've had difficult mules. I will
admit that those mares were not the best temperments though, something
that I attribute partly to their genetic heritage as well as partly early
training. Saddle seat style horses, halter champions (in general, I
recognize there are exceptions <smile> and most show horse types won't
work. Any mares with muttony withers would also be bad choices, your'e
fighting donkey withers anyway, no need ot make it worse. <g>

The jack you sleect should be a riding style donkey. We have had good
success with large standards and mammoths. However, a drafty mammoth will
make a poor mule sire, his mules will be better suited as pack animals
rather than riding animals. The jack you select should have good riding
conformation (be sure you know the differences between asses and horses
before you judge a donkey though!) and have a reasonable temperment.
Remeber, jackass means what it does because many of them are that way! ;-)

Regarding mules as endurance animals. In the past most mules were bred
from the poorer quality mares and had that working against them. Most
mules do not have the speed to be top ten endurance animals but I think
that will change as more people look for good mules out of top quality
mares. We breed all of our mares for both mules and horses. If she's not
good enough for breeding to a stallion she isn't good enough to go to
the jack. You don't get good mules by breeding bad mares! Be prepared for
a lot of hassle both from donkey owners and from Arabian breeders. The
donkey folks tend to think "damm Ayrabs" and the Arabian folk are
horrified at "stooping" to breed to a jack.

Now for the plug. If you are serious please check out our jack and our
mares. We are currently taking reservations for 1997 and 1998 mule foals.
Our jack, DW Desert AssTech, is a spotted (black and white pinto) large
standard out of mammoth parents. We offer frozen semen to the US and
Canada. We will breed any mare not already bred for a mule and produce
our foals to order. We've sold mules to people as far away as West
Virginia. My home pages also have several articles about mules that you
might find interesting. There is a longears mail list as well.

Oogie McGuire - oogiem@dsrtweyr.com
Weyr Associates - Multimedia and Web Authoring Services & Consulting
Desert Weyr - CMK Arabian horses & saddle mules for endurance and show