>Subj:	[endurance] Metabolic alkalosis
>Date:	95-12-01 13:00:17 EST
>From:	dowling@sask.usask.ca (Patricia Dowling DVM)
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>Lynn: an excellent explanation of 
>metabolic/alkalosis/acidosis. But I'll argue a few points.
>
>Our endurance horses, due to many factors including their 
>rapid 
>respiration rates are alkalotic. 
>
>The mechanism of metabolic alkalosis in heavily sweating 
>endurance horses and horses given the diuretic furosemide 
>(Lasix) is believed to be due to reduction in the 
>extracellular fluid volume (normally 60% of body weight) 
>from loss of water, sodium and chloride (in sweat), without 
>a matching loss in bicarbonate. The compensatory response to 
>metabolic acidosis is a decrease in respiration. I agree 
>with the other responders: the horses are panting 
>(tachypnea) in an effort to dissipate heat from the 
>respiratory tract. Cows don't sweat well - they do this all 
>the time!
>
>
> If respiration rate increases further, 
>such as in an inversion the alkalosis worsens and the 
>foundation is laid 
>for development of thumps (synchronous diaphragmatic 
>flutter) and 
>rhabdomyolysis (tying up).  
>
>Thumps (synchronous diaphragmatic flutter) results from a 
>combination of metabolic alkalosis, low blood calcium, 
>potassium, and magnesium. Metabolic alkalosis alters the 
>ratio of free to protein-bound calcium. Protein bound calcim 
> is not avaible for cellular function. These derangements 
>disrupt the normal functioning of the phrenic nerve that 
>controls the diaphragm - making it fire with every heart 
>beat.
>
>
>
>THe horse is blowing of CO2 to bring up blood pH--but
>you imply that endurance horses are alkalotic--how can this 
>be when the
>major muscle product is LACTIC ACID, which is causing the 
>problem? If the
>blood pH is low because of HLa, it only makes sense to me 
>that the horse
>would blow of CO2 to raise his pH to counteract HLa.
>Am I missing something? 
>
>Gwen: your thinking is logical, and actually, we accepted 
>for years that tied up horses have lactic acidosis and 
>therefore must be metabolically acidotic. This was said in a 
>vet journal decades ago, and no one challenged it. Finally 
>someone did a study (Journal of the American Vet Med Assoc, 
>1983) and found that tied-up horses are metabolically 
>alkalotic. Many studies since have documented this in 
>exhausted endurance horses. As far as blood lactic acid 
>goes, studies show horses with chronic exertional 
>rhabdomyolysis have LOWER blood lactic acid concentrations 
>in affected muscles than normal horses. The most recent 
>studies suggest that muscle damage occurs due to problems in 
>reglating calcium inside the muscle cell.
>
>
>
>Sometimes when a heart rate goes erratic it is a deficiency 
>of calcium, but
>I'm so expert. We are all still learning, and frankly, I 
>think we know more
>than most fo the vets!!
>
>This comment is not appropriate for this list. We can have 
>discussions and exchange information without insulting 
>anyone. No one knows everything, and veterinarians are 
>highly educated, but are expected to know many things about 
>many species. If you want veterinarians who are more 
>educated about distance horses, support your nearest 
>veterinary school's chapter of the American Association of 
>Equine Practitioners.
>
>Trisha Dowling, DVM, MS, Diplomate ACVIM, ACVCP
>Associate Professor, Veterinary Clinical Pharmacology
>Western College of Veterinary Medicine 
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>From: Patricia Dowling DVM <dowling@sask.usask.ca>
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Sorry, no offense intended, but as an endurance rider who has seen 20 plus
years of rides under 100's of vets, I have come to the conclusion that it is
the RIDER who knows how his horse is doing.  Veterinary advice and control is
certainly necessary.  I believe it should always be a PARTNERSHIP when ti
comes to evaluating the stress our horses undergo on enduracne rides!!!
Teddy