Was reading the posts regarding tying and had just seen something on HGTV (9409) dish network that was related and seemed like a sensible idea. There was a trainer named Denis (not reis) who was demonstrating how he reteaches or reschools pullers. He used a long cotton rope and a no pull type halter. He looped the rope thru the halter loop over the back, under the tail, back over the back looping it once or twice I think that back thru the halter loop again. I may have missed one step in the process and that is why you would have to watch it. Anyway, when the horse sets back he/she feels the rope under the tail and moves forward in response. The rope feeds itself thru the halter loop so there is no pressure on the head/neck area. I wouldn't try it unless you saw it for yourself because my description of what he did may not be entirely accurate. But it made good sense and seemed very safe for a horse. For myself, I have a mare that was a puller and I used a combination of things. The J. Lyons go forward cue, a little twine thru the post ring and a bunge lead. The bunge basically elimanated the panic. The go forward cue made her think and not just react. The twine would break in an energency thus not hurting the mare. For us it worked. She feels more comfortable and secure when tied not. Plus I admit to spoiling her and making the trailer or post a nice place to be. I would groom her, let her nibble on some hay; not every time but sometimes. I also taught her to ground tie. When the farrier comes I can do either. She just stands so nicely now. But, I do always remember, that it was something she did and may years later do. So I never forget that and am always thinking of my response to it. Anyway, just my experience and opinion. I do have to admit that force bothers me and so does poking a horse. I'd have to see the situation. But from my observations force and creating fear is not fruitful or safe. Manners are extremely important. But I think watching the horse, observing them, assessing their personality and then teaching them according to that criteria may be in order. Because they are all different and come from different backgrounds. Like people somewhat, the way they are raised or treated may make them respectful, disrespectful, defensive, fearful or to us nuts! I feel there is always a reason. So, give them the benifit of the doubt at first. Obviously, a more aggressive horse would need a firmer hand. But not punishment. Correction instead. I've also seen some horses work better with some people than others. I have a friend who loves to take horses that have people problems! The result is really great in most cases. Personalities sometimes clash. Anyway this is just my opinion and experience. It's nice that we can all share and pool our information. Happy riding to all! kathie
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