Ridecamp: RE: [RC] RO, Fit to continue

I would not classify tired as metabolic, because the horse might just finish
the ride fine and does not have any metabolic problem at the time the rider
wants to pull.  You cannot pick a code on what might happen.  A rider should
be able to pull a horse without penalty, if the horse is healthy.  Another
example would be weather related.  A rider may not want to continue because
the rider believes the weather (icy, muddy, etc.) conditions are unsafe for
their horse.  This should be RO even though the rider made the decision
based upon the safety of the horse.  To go to your thoughts, the rider is
concerned that weather/trail conditions might lame the horse, but the horse
is not lame at the time of the pull, so it should not be a lameness pull.

I believe that if a horse passes a vet check and the rider chooses to quit,
it should be RO no matter what the reason is.  We should not punish the
horse/rider's ride records for good decisions.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara McCrary [mailto:bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Tom Dean
Cc: RIDECAMP
Subject: Re: [RC] RO, Fit to continue

I would classify a tired horse as M.  If he is pushed further, he will
become a metabolic case.  However, as this pull code thing becomes more and
more complicated, maybe it would be better to go back to DNF, did not
finish.  The pull codes were originally adopted to serve as a learning tool,
but it seems like they are spinning out of control.  I was the one who made
the motion to adopt the RO-L and RO-M codes, along with SF, surface factors
(to cover everything from galls to bleeding that did not produce lameness).
But it's becoming so complicated now that I would be perfectly happy to
return to DNF.  I'm not the sure the vet committee would agree, however.
They set his up in the attempt to learn something.

Barbara McCrary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Dean" <bdci@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ridecamp@Endurance. Net" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Steph@Endurance. Net" <steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: [RC] RO, Fit to continue


> What do you classify a tired horse?  His metabolic are good and he is not
> lame, but the rider just does not want to push the horse.  To
statistically
> call this horse lame or metabolic an error and distorts the numbers.  And
> why punish a rider who is overly cautious about their horse.  There have
> been people that have suggested using rider history to judge and sanction
> riders or horses.  There are people that do not want the stigma of a pull
> and push their horses to completions that if there were a way to pull a
fit
> horse without this stigma, they would have pulled their horse.  Also,
horses
> are judged by their completion records.  Try to sell a horse with a couple
> of metabolic pulls.  Steph is right, this is not as simple an issue as
some
> people have described.  A couple of years ago, I suggested to the BOD
there
> should be a category "Rider Option, Fit To Continue" (RO,FTC).  This would
> be for a horse that cleared the Vet Check, but the rider for whatever
reason
> does not want to push the horse.  A rider/horse should rewarded for making
> the right decision, not punished for having a pull and less horses would
be
> put in danger.
>
> Tom
>
>
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