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 I've never understood the animosity, either.  
Until this year, I'd only done 3 LD's, and I didn't start with LD--partly 
because I started before the concept of LD had even been dreamed up, and partly 
because the challenge of 100 miles was what lured me to try the sport in the 
first place, so I started with the Virginia City 100.  That said, I'm now 
coming off of two years of not riding at all, and I'm enjoying the opportunity 
to get out on the trails and enjoy my friends without having to take the time 
first to get myself and a horse fit enough to do 50.  (Actually, the horse 
is ready at this point, but I'm still not--and he could have easily been ready 
for 50 without ever doing an LD--I've always said that LD's are for people, and 
not horses--and I still agree with that now that I'm a "people" who is enjoying 
riding them.)  LD's can be different things to different people, just as 
50's on up can be.  And why this "we-they" mentality ever developed is 
beyond me.  I, too, agree that "real" endurance starts at 50 miles--but 
thank heavens for LD's, where those of us not quite able for whatever reasons to 
do them can go rub elbows with those who can, and where we can meet our own 
lesser goals, whatever those may be.  (Mine happen to be to enjoy myself 
while getting myself back together to do longer rides, and to get some sale 
geldings out in the public, so that people can at least see that they are broke, 
sane, pleasant to ride, and already know how to camp out.)  Yep, I'll be 
back doing 50's at some point--again, that's my own goal, and need not be 
shared by others, although I'd hope that most who are physically able and who do 
LD's would eventually aspire to go farther.  And meanwhile, I'll enjoy 
myself, and my entry fees will help keep rides afloat so that others can go 
farther, and so that those managers will still be in business when I'm ready 
to do 50 again, too. 
  
Heidi 
  
    
  
  
  
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  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:40 PM 
  Subject: Re: [RC] ENDURANCE NOT 
  
  
  Hmm, this has been a very interesting thread for me, with all of one LD 
  under my belt but with hopes of many more.  
   "Short and sweet", LD rides are not endurance.  Ok, we all knew that, 
  that's why they are called *limited* distance.  So then I'm guessing that 
  the conflict here is the inclusion of LD at all with endurance rides?  
  But as someone said, without LD riders, what would the average ride fee 
  be for the "real" endurance riders?  Seriously, I would have to 
  think they would at least double, possibly triple, or else the ride would 
  cease to exist.   Or is it just the fact that LD riders are 
  recognized in mileage statistics, albeit separately?  So if those less 
  able for whatever reason wish to participate in such statistics, they 
  need to form their own group? The American Pleasure Ride Conference? :-) 
   I truly admire the ability of the people and horses who do 100 mile rides 
  and multiday.  However, I really am at a loss at the animosity I'm seeing 
  with this whole subject.   Throwing out that folks who do limited 
  mileage should "just" do CTR is like handing someone a carrot when they 
  asked for an apple.  A CTR is different than a LD ride, and some 
  folks prefer one to the other. :-P 
   As for the PC running the ranch, if that were the case no one would get 
  placings at all.  Everyone would be given the same handshake and 
  congratulations irrespective of their placing or distance.  I don't see 
  where giving LD separate awards and mileage in any way dilutes the statistics 
  of endurance riders.  Or maybe the objection is to having 50 milers 
  included in endurance statistics, as those are "training rides"?  
   So, what is the 'dilution' that is occurring here?  I don't get 
  it.  To me it seems the LD/endurance relationship is a win/win 
  situation.  The endurance riders benefit by the financial support of all 
  those LD riders who are willing to pay almost the same to do a shorter 
  ride.  And face it, there are lots more folks capable of doing LD than 
  endurance.  The LD riders benefit by having a structure similar to the 
  endurance rides which they probably would love to be able to do but can't for 
  whatever reason.  Where is the dilution?  They are separate animals, 
  but use the same organization to track statistics and share ride facilities 
  and management. 
   I totally understand and agree on one thing.  The LD I did (a 30) was 
  absolutely a pleasure, possibly one of the most pleasurable days of my life 
  and one I will remember until my dying day.  I hope to move on 
  to 50s, and my dream is the Tevis, but until then I will be content to 
  eat the dust of the you endurance riders and take inspiration from your 
  accomplishments. :-) 
   Dana the confused 
   PS  I think doing 30 miles (600 laps) on a merry-go-round would be an 
  absolute test of endurance and way harder than 100 miles on a horse.  I 
  think I'm gettting dizzy.....  :-P  
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