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    Re: [RC] ENDURANCE NOT - Heidi Smith


    I've never understood the animosity, either.  Until this year, I'd only done 3 LD's, and I didn't start with LD--partly because I started before the concept of LD had even been dreamed up, and partly because the challenge of 100 miles was what lured me to try the sport in the first place, so I started with the Virginia City 100.  That said, I'm now coming off of two years of not riding at all, and I'm enjoying the opportunity to get out on the trails and enjoy my friends without having to take the time first to get myself and a horse fit enough to do 50.  (Actually, the horse is ready at this point, but I'm still not--and he could have easily been ready for 50 without ever doing an LD--I've always said that LD's are for people, and not horses--and I still agree with that now that I'm a "people" who is enjoying riding them.)  LD's can be different things to different people, just as 50's on up can be.  And why this "we-they" mentality ever developed is beyond me.  I, too, agree that "real" endurance starts at 50 miles--but thank heavens for LD's, where those of us not quite able for whatever reasons to do them can go rub elbows with those who can, and where we can meet our own lesser goals, whatever those may be.  (Mine happen to be to enjoy myself while getting myself back together to do longer rides, and to get some sale geldings out in the public, so that people can at least see that they are broke, sane, pleasant to ride, and already know how to camp out.)  Yep, I'll be back doing 50's at some point--again, that's my own goal, and need not be shared by others, although I'd hope that most who are physically able and who do LD's would eventually aspire to go farther.  And meanwhile, I'll enjoy myself, and my entry fees will help keep rides afloat so that others can go farther, and so that those managers will still be in business when I'm ready to do 50 again, too.
     
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dana B.
    Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:40 PM
    Subject: Re: [RC] ENDURANCE NOT

    Hmm, this has been a very interesting thread for me, with all of one LD under my belt but with hopes of many more. 

    "Short and sweet", LD rides are not endurance.  Ok, we all knew that, that's why they are called *limited* distance.  So then I'm guessing that the conflict here is the inclusion of LD at all with endurance rides?  But as someone said, without LD riders, what would the average ride fee be for the "real" endurance riders?  Seriously, I would have to think they would at least double, possibly triple, or else the ride would cease to exist.   Or is it just the fact that LD riders are recognized in mileage statistics, albeit separately?  So if those less able for whatever reason wish to participate in such statistics, they need to form their own group? The American Pleasure Ride Conference? :-)

    I truly admire the ability of the people and horses who do 100 mile rides and multiday.  However, I really am at a loss at the animosity I'm seeing with this whole subject.   Throwing out that folks who do limited mileage should "just" do CTR is like handing someone a carrot when they asked for an apple.  A CTR is different than a LD ride, and some folks prefer one to the other. :-P

    As for the PC running the ranch, if that were the case no one would get placings at all.  Everyone would be given the same handshake and congratulations irrespective of their placing or distance.  I don't see where giving LD separate awards and mileage in any way dilutes the statistics of endurance riders.  Or maybe the objection is to having 50 milers included in endurance statistics, as those are "training rides"? 

    So, what is the 'dilution' that is occurring here?  I don't get it.  To me it seems the LD/endurance relationship is a win/win situation.  The endurance riders benefit by the financial support of all those LD riders who are willing to pay almost the same to do a shorter ride.  And face it, there are lots more folks capable of doing LD than endurance.  The LD riders benefit by having a structure similar to the endurance rides which they probably would love to be able to do but can't for whatever reason.  Where is the dilution?  They are separate animals, but use the same organization to track statistics and share ride facilities and management.

    I totally understand and agree on one thing.  The LD I did (a 30) was absolutely a pleasure, possibly one of the most pleasurable days of my life and one I will remember until my dying day.  I hope to move on to 50s, and my dream is the Tevis, but until then I will be content to eat the dust of the you endurance riders and take inspiration from your accomplishments. :-)

    Dana the confused

    PS  I think doing 30 miles (600 laps) on a merry-go-round would be an absolute test of endurance and way harder than 100 miles on a horse.  I think I'm gettting dizzy.....  :-P


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