This is not meant as a flame. I just couldn't 
    resist playing devil's advocate!
    Lori Cox
     
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    Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 6:53 
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    Subject: RC: Re: barefoot
    
     
    Actually the whole hoof expands if it has been 
    properly trimmed. You would be supprised to see the difference in the 
    shape of my mustang's foot when it is in the air and the shape of her hoof 
    print on the ground. 
     
    hmmmmm....never was able to get 
    my horse to hold her hoof in the air when in motion...how do you do 
    that?
     
     
    My horse goes barefoot in the spring until he starts 
    to wear more than he is growing. 
     
    So you admit that barefoot is better for the horse? 
    Why not use hoof boots if you have to?
     
    I read Maggie's remark to read 
    "when it is appropriate". That means when she is not asking the horse to 
    travel at distances at speed over rough terrain. In other words, when not in 
    training, conditioning or endurance ride/race season
     
     Then he generally will get front shoes first and 
    hind shoes when he needs them.  My only objections to going barefoot is 
    the idea that because horses in the wild go barefoot, all horses should be 
    able to go barefoot as well...what our horses go through for us and the kind 
    of life they live as domesticated animals is nothing like the life they 
    would live in the wild.  The feet do not grow the same 
     
    Do you mean the hooves grow slower? I know my Arab's 
    hooves grow about 2 to 3 times faster now that they are barefoot and the 
    hoof quality is better than ever befor! This is all because of the increased 
    circulation. They are also more healthy and even sweat less on the 
    trail!
     
    From what I hear and read, I am 
    not convinced that having my horse sweat less is something I should be 
    wanting. If they are sweating and replenishing hydration, they are a lot 
    better off than not being able to expell toxins, etc.
     
    and for most of us who don't have thousands of acres 
    of mountains or hills with rocks, etc.
     
    I only have one acer, I wish I had more.
     
    I will take it to mean that you 
    have one acre. (at first I thought you were referring to a tree....smile) 
    One acre for three horses? Doesn't sound like a "natural" environment to me. 
    
     
     the feet don't wear the same.  You are 
    right, trimming is essential.  However, not every horse can go barefoot 
    
     
    Are horses born with shoes on? Did God make a mistake 
    somewhere?
     
     
    hmmmm.....were you born barefoot? 
    Do you wear shoes? I sure do and I am not about to subject my tender 
    tootsies to the gravel roads or toss rocks around my bedroom so my feet will 
    get tough. Why would I do that when I can get some pretty comffy tennies and 
    boots? Why would I not help my horse to be as comfy as I can make him or her 
    (don't answer that.....I already anticipate the answer......just playing 
    advocate here). But I do appreciate your and other's contributions to this 
    isue as we all must try to learn as much as we can about alternate methods, 
    ideas, etc. Discussion is healthy and so is an open mind. 
    Happy footin it.
    Pat
     
    just as every horse will not respond favorably to the 
    Strasser method or natural balance shoeing or whatever the current fad may 
    be.  EVERY HORSE IS AN INDIVIDUAL and must be treated as such.  If 
    you find what works for your horse, count yourself lucky.  Nelson trims 
    and shoes a lot of problem horses for the reasons I mentioned above...we 
    subject them to OUR wishes and desires and the environment in which they 
    live.  Shoes are a necessary evil sometimes....no, they are not 
    ideal.  But if shod properly,  a horse can go many miles in 
    comfort and safety.  I would advise people to find what works for THEIR 
    horse (and sometimes it takes some trial and error whether it's angles for 
    trimming, shoeing methods or whatever) and then stick with it.  I would 
    like to caution people about trimming out too much sole and frog...they have 
    a purpose.  There is a difference between trimming out EXCESS and 
    trimming out for looks.  When people ask us about trying something new 
    they have heard about it we ask them WHY?  If the horse has a problem, 
    fine.  We can try something new.  If it ain't broke, why try to 
    fix it?  JMHO,
    Maggie
     
    And don't forget to read and study we owe it to our horses to try to 
    give them the best! : )