Re: Assertions and other assertions about spooking.

["Cora" <bandc@teknett.com>]

TRUST DOEN'T WORK THIS WAY!!! You initially have trust ...then you're going
to scare him to death proving you're going to gain it back...I don't think
so!!!...Cora
----- Original Message -----
From: Marv Walker <Marv@MarvWalker.com>
To: <Ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:12 PM
Subject: RC: Assertions and other assertions about spooking.


> > Before I respond to your post, let's put this discussion into context.
> >
> > It started with your assertion (correct me if I'm wrong) that you could
> > "spookproof" a horse via your RP technique in half an hour?  Am I right
so
> > far?
> >
> > My assertion is not that you can't.  My assertion is that :
> >
> > 1.  This will not work with all horses; and
> > 2.  The horse will not remain spook-proof.
>
> As long as it's a discussion...
>
> Since it started with the assertion let's confine ourselves
> to that.
>
> I know you don't like "generalizations" but the fact remains
> they are a part of everyone's life including yours. No horse
> is spook-"proof".  Horse people use that term to denote a
> tendency to spook that they can live with.
>
> I say, and am willing to demonstrate at any time the risk of
> the demonstration is not one sided, that *I* can make a horse
> DRAMATICALLY less spook-prone, if not completely "spook-proof"
> (i.e very difficult to create an unacceptable level of anxiety
> in) in a half hour using the technique known as Marv Walker's
> bonder.  Extend the time I work with the horse to an hour I can
> exponentially produce even greater results.
>
> Your assertion is that it will not work with all horses.  I really
> can't address whether it will work with all horses or not because
> I haven't worked all horses yet.  I am however, working on it.  So
> far, I have not found a horse it hasn't worked on and I have worked
> quite a few horses.
>
> As far as whether or not the horse will never spook again goes, I
> can't say that either because after all horses are horses and if the
> circumstances are right, pretty much anything can happen.
>
> The procedure does NOT resolve spooking issues, it resolves fear &
> confidence issues.  In resolving the fear & confidence issues, it
> affects those things that are fear & confidence based.  THAT is how
> the procedure resolves spooking.  The procedure resolves spooking
> but it is not for the purpose of resolving spooking.  It is a
> connection procedure.
>
> Once this connection is established AND the connection is maintained
> (all this is in far more depth than emails allow on my web site
> http://MarvWalker.com/horse.htm ) the horse will be so less spooky
> that the owner will consider it "spook-proof".  It will also be far
> more compliant, willing, patient, you name it.  *IF* it shows signs
> of reverting (some do, some don't) it only takes a few moments to
> re-establish the connection.
>
> Just like it works initially, it will also work to reconnect should
> something happen to affect the connection.
>
> I'm not sure how much of my available material you've read beyond
> the points in my emails that fly in the face of your beliefs, but
> the fact that you consider them any kind of s*** has no bearing on
> whether or not they work.  You say they don't from a position of
> cursory examination and your experiences.  I say they do because
> of my experiences and the experiences of others.  So far, not one
> has contacted me and said, "Marv, he's spooking as bad as ever
> again."  They have contacted me with glowing reports.
>
> I have set up it so they do not have to fail.  Bottom line, if they
> duplicate the actions I set forth those, actions WILL produce
> positive results.  The people who attend my events come from a wide
> range of horse experience.  I have had people from barely know what
> a horse looks like to long time cowboys and Prix St. George riders.
> When they leave my events they are confident they can perform the
> procedure and that it will work on any horse not mentally ill or
> hormonally imbalanced.
>
> And that isn't even taking physical causes into effect.  Spooking
> is often caused by pain.  If, for instance, you have a horse with
> a cervical subluxation or two, or dental problems or any of a number
> of discomforts, that horse may exhibit adverse reactions to the
> unexpected.  Remove the discomfort, you remove the spook.
>
> The recipe works.  Period.  Get the ingredients together anywhere
> in NA and I'll come ready to cook.  If the dish turns out as I say,
> pay my fee.  If it doesn't, no charge, I'll pay my own costs and
> stand there until the laughter dies away and leave you (general "you"
> here) with a signed statement saying you sure showed me.
>
> All the analyzing, qualifying and rationalizing to the contrary as
> to why it "shouldn't" work doesn't change the fact it does work. If
> someone can walk, chew gum and tie their own shoes I can take-it-to-
> the-bank talk them through it faster and easier than any other
> "despooking"/"sacking"/"desensitizing" technique I've ever heard of
> or seen in the last half-century.
>
> Marv "Was 'Electric Shorts Cause Fires' Now 'Man Held In Downtown
> Fire'"" Walker
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