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Re: Re: Re:overweight an issue? - Weight vs. lean mass



No problem.  But there's a big difference between the two, so needed
energetic pointing out.

I had a lady contact me about a year or two ago, saying how pleased she was
to hear that she too could Ride Endurance and Win (emphasis on win) without
her own weight being an issue at all.  It sounded kinda funny, so aside from
correcting her statements that Weight Makes No Difference At All, I asked
(very politely)....ummm, just what *is* the rider weight and horse weight in
question.  She said her horse weighed about 900 pounds and she was...well,
about 270, NOT including 60 pounds of tack.  And wasn't she looking forward
to winning her very first next month, if she could just solve all these
mysterious lameness problems that kept cropping up for no reason at all.

I didn't get into a discussion about whether she was overweight or just
Large, but we did discuss the realities of biomechanics.

Susan G
----- Original Message -----
From: <twoodcock@lendleaserei.com>
To: Susan Garlinghouse <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 2:53 PM
Subject: RC: Re: Re:overweight an issue? - Weight vs. lean mass


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> My apologies, I was attempting to reference the first of your summarized
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> below and I should have used a different phrase than "no impact".
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> Tamara Woodcock
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> "Susan Garlinghouse" <suendavid@worldnet.att.net> on 07/25/2000 09:40:50
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> Please respond to "Susan Garlinghouse" <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>
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> To:   Tamara Woodcock/US1/Lend Lease@LLNA, ridecamp@endurance.net
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> Subject:  Re: Re:overweight an issue? - Weight vs. lean mass
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> > Didn't I see a study from Susan G on the 1996 Tevis that said rider
> weight/rider
> > weight to horse ratio had no impact in endurance?  I can't get to the
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> > Tamara
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> No, you did not.  Sorry, but I swear, I'm gonna shoot myself when the next
> person says my studies say that.  It says nothing of the kind.
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> It does say that RWR and rider weight had no effect on completion rate or
> placing, at least at this particular ride over three years.  That is NOT
the
> same as no impact.
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> Either the '96 or the '98 study discusses about how combined rider weight
> and body weight of the horse over a certain point affects the incidence of
> lameness (it goes up).
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> It says that body condition score (which is not the same as body weight
and
> has nothing to do with rider weight) has a tremendous impact on the
> incidence of metabolic pulls.
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> It points out that if the condition score is low (ie, the horse is thin),
> than rider weight and RWR did become an issue, in that thin horse/big
rider
> ran into metabolic trouble faster than anyone else.
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> And it discusses at some length about the energetics involved and why all
of
> this is a reasonable conclusion.  Plus lots and lots of boring numbers and
> statistics.
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> Susan G
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