Re: traction

["Dawna Bynum-Boyd" <EndurzRider@worldnet.att.net>]

I have an endurance horse that consistently pulled shoes for several years.
I tried a couple of different farriers, we put a smaller shoe on him, rolled
his toes, squared his hinds, even rolled the ends of the fronts so
supposedly he couldn't catch them, all without luck.  I finally e-mail the
Anvil website experts, they suggested that my farrier wasn't getting him
completely level on all four feet.  So I change to a farrier in my area that
also teaches and has a fine reputation.  Bingo....no more lost shoes....no
rolling, no square hinds, no too small shoes....

Perhaps this isn't your horse's problem, but sure was mines.

Dawna
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From: guest@endurance.net <guest@endurance.net>
To: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Date: Saturday, July 15, 2000 1:19 PM
Subject: RC: traction


>Donna Lee jdc@nb.sympatico.ca
>Would any of you knowledgable people out there help me!!!  Please!!!!  I
have a 15.3 hd Paint that I do low level eventing with, I also do JP's and
CTR's with him.  The problem I am having is twofold.  First... I had a
problem with him pulling shoes all the time, couldn't rely on getting the
farrier back in a reasonable amount of time and so changed farriers.  Both
of these guys used a #0 on his front feet.  The second guy (R) began to
underrun his shoes (particularly the left front) to avoid the pulling
problem and in doing so rasped away some of  the medial aspect of the hoof
wall.  I no longer had any problem with him pulling shoes but after 3 weeks
his shoe was riding on the inside of the hoof wall making Mommy not a happy
camper.  In comes farrier #3, S (I used R for over a year). S says that in
rasping away the hoof wall R has weakened it to such a degree that it will
eventually seperate from the hoof and crack.  He also up'd his shoe size to
a 1.  Problem... he has lost!
> 3 shoes in two weeks, taking great chunks of hoof wall with it.  R was
using heel and toe shoes.  S is using flat shoes.  I really liked the
traction of the heel and toe and absoutly hate the insecure slidding of the
flat shoes, as well as I feel that my horse does not have the same
confidence as he is slipping over stuff that he never has before and his
stride has become  somewhat shorter.  I have checked into using rim shoes or
eventers but am seriously considering going back to the heel and toe but
after searching the net for 3 days now I am totally confused and at a loss
as to what to use.  Heel and toes provide too much "grab" resulting in
prolonged long term fatigue and trauma to my partner.  I feel S left his toe
too long resulting in prolonged breakover time hence the pulled shoes.  The
terrain we ride in is VERY rocky and I always use pads.  Because I also like
to event I am concerned that I truely do need the "grab" as he covers the
cross country in differing condit!
>ions.  Just how much grab to the full rim shoes have.  Do you expe
>eople have any opinions as to what I should do?  I am probably going back
to R as he was cheaper than S and I didn't have this problem with him (I
know I know cheaper is not better!!!)  S has been coming back to replace the
lost shoes at no charge but... The last time he trimmed up the lost and
broken hoof, (we epoxied in the "holes" after), replaced the two hind shoes
with flat plates with small corks and left the r front hoof alone.  I
questioned him on it as it looks abviously longer than the left but he said
he checked it and it was tight and it had only been 8 days since he had
refit the hoof.  Several other people as well as myself think it is
noticably longer that the right. HELP!!!!
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